conservatives vs women

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...backfire_.html


below is the article referenced above, discussing girl scouts.




http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...nization_.html

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here's the article about the politician who says:

'Radical' Girl Scouts out to destroy 'American family values'

By NBC News and msnbc.com staff
There's an agenda behind those cookies the Girl Scouts sell, one bent on promoting communism, lesbianism and subverting "traditional American family values," according to an Indiana lawmaker.

That's the reason Rep. Bob Morris, a Republican representing Fort Wayne, insists he won't go along with a resolution meant to honor the Girls Scouts on the organization's 100th anniversary.



http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...-family-values

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http://www.journalgazette.net/articl...29962/-1/blogs


oh, and here's the letter he wrote.

wow

[Rileyoriley]

I will continue to purchase the "samoa" cookies despite the threat of communism.

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ah yes, those and thin mints. mmmmm mmmm.

[dellinger63]

I'm giving up Girl Scout Cookies for lent but will still buy several boxes and give them to the priests who hear my confessions for using contraceptives and having pre-marital sex as many times as possible.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/22/op...=1&ref=opinion


Mullah Rick, who has turned prayer into a career move, told ABC News’s Jake Tapper that he disagreed with the 1965 Supreme Court decision striking down a ban on contraception. And, in October, he insisted that contraception is “not O.K. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”



'Why is it that Republicans don’t want government involved when it comes to the economy (opposing the auto bailouts) but do want government involved when it comes to telling people how to live their lives? '


well, maureen, that's a good question!

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...ound_laws.html


excellent piece! martha is spot on with her writing. the stance that many ultra-rights are taking is absolutely ridiculous. i cannot believe that at this time in our existence, we're still having to fight for the right to control our bodies!!
my two grandmothers had 21 children. one had 14, the other 7. not sure if they had any other pregnancies to go along with those kids. i can't imagine having that many kids, or that at my age i could still be having them-but knowing my family, it's entirely conceivable. how different our lives would be if tony and i had had a huge family. i have no doubt that many others could say the same. i am so glad that we could control that-it's something we take for granted, and it's an ability many aren't able to have. i am amazed that there are those who would take that away if they could.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/op...ml?ref=opinion

Op-Ed Columnist
When States Abuse Women
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: March 3, 2012



“The state of Texas is waging war on women and their families,” Dr. Boyd added. “The new law is demeaning and disrespectful to the women of Texas, and insulting to the doctors and nurses who care for them.”

That law is part of a war over women’s health being fought around the country — and in much of the country, women are losing. State by state, legislatures are creating new obstacles to abortions and are treating women in ways that are patronizing and humiliating.


and further down, note this:


The small proportion of women and girls who aren’t using contraceptives account for half of all abortions in America, according to Guttmacher.

[joeydb]

Uhh... did anyone notice that the very title of this thread is illogical since about half of conservatives actually ARE women?

How about the reverse: a "liberals vs. men" thread. I'll bet I can find more evidence of that in the form of quotas and "diversity" legislation that try to promote the hiring of non-male candidates, and reduce the hiring of males.

The whole premise is absurd. You don't like the opposition - fine - but broad brushing it to "conservatives vs. women" is just plain stupid.

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http://www.slate.com/articles/health...u_a_slut_.html

Pills for Sluts?
Six questions for Rush Limbaugh about sex, promiscuity, and contraception.

By William Saletan|Posted Monday, March 5, 2012, at 8:41 AM ET

For three days last week, Rush Limbaugh ridiculed Sandra Fluke, a Georgetown University law student who had argued that health insurers should be required to cover contraception. Then, on Saturday, under pressure from his advertisers, Limbaugh apologized. The apology addressed Limbaugh’s personal language about Fluke, whom he had called a “slut” (and from whom he had jokingly demanded “videos of all this sex posted online so we can see what we are getting for our money”). But it didn’t recant or rebut any of the ideas Limbaugh put forward during his rants against Fluke. And those ideas are worth examining, because, whether you love or hate Limbaugh, his impromptu monologues are a useful indicator of what many conservative Americans think. Let’s look at the questions he raised.

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Originally Posted by joeydb

Uhh... did anyone notice that the very title of this thread is illogical since about half of conservatives actually ARE women?

How about the reverse: a "liberals vs. men" thread. I'll bet I can find more evidence of that in the form of quotas and "diversity" legislation that try to promote the hiring of non-male candidates, and reduce the hiring of males.

The whole premise is absurd. You don't like the opposition - fine - but broad brushing it to "conservatives vs. women" is just plain stupid.

how is it illogical? there are conservative women who are helping to further attacks on others that share their sex, without sharing their idealogy. the current state of affairs bears out the premise that conservatives, both men and women, are in fact daily pushing legislation that is typically anti-women.
if you look at the numbers, most women consider themselves either democrat or independant, not republican.

as for it being broad brushing-that would have been the case had i said men vs women...or republicans vs women.

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http://news.yahoo.com/oklahoma-state...045059169.html

[Riot]

Occurred today. Big Government intrusion into your health care and finances. Unbelievable what Gods Own Party feels empowered to do. Citizen payback at the election booth is a bit.ch.

Gov. McDonnell ignores Virginians, signs anti-woman bill opposed by majority

In response to Governor McDonnell this afternoon signing HB 462, which mandates expensive and medically unnecessary ultrasounds for women seeking an abortion, ProgressVA Executive Director Anna Scholl released the following statement:

“The evidence is stacking up that Bob McDonnell is willfully out of touch with Virginia families. Faced with the opposition of 55% of Virginians, 33,000 petition signatures, and thousands of protestors on Capitol Square, McDonnell chose to answer the calls of extremists in his own party rather than those of his constituents. This move makes clear that Bob McDonnell prioritizes his national political aspirations over the well being of Virginia families.”

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Originally Posted by Riot

Occurred today. Big Government intrusion into your health care and finances. Unbelievable what Gods Own Party feels empowered to do. Citizen payback at the election booth is a bit.ch.

Schapiro: Gov. McDonnell channels Capt. Queeg.

Gov. McDonnell is channeling Captain Queeg — without the marbles.

Humphrey Bogart, as the off-center commander in "The Caine Mutiny," raged, "I tried to run the ship properly, by the book. But they fought me at every turn."

Bob McDonnell, as the right-of-center commander in chief, attacks a news media that, in his mind, fights him at every turn, casting Virginia as the Mississippi of the Mid-Atlantic and him as the Mullah of Movement Conservatism.

Unloading before a sympathetic audience, the online edition of the conservative National Review, McDonnell criticized reporters and pundits for focusing on pistols, probes and personhood rather than poll-tested proposals that are supposed to lift him to the vice presidency. And he alleged liberal bias in the media.

Really, what do you expect from the lamestream media?...btw, this paper leans hard right.

"If you just read the papers, you have no idea what's going on in the legislature because the reporting has been so poor this session," said McDonnell.

"There has been inordinate focus on about three or four bills, to the exclusion of the other 1,000 bills — especially the big stuff such as higher ed, K-12, energy, veterans, pension reform and a lot of other things that are very significant and are getting virtually no attention. It's been pretty poor overall."

This is news to us.

"We have reported substantially on the budget, the state pension fund, education reform and key pieces of the governor's legislative agenda as well as issues surrounding abortion and gun rights that have sparked great public interest this year," said Times-Dispatch Editor Daniel Finnegan.

"And we have not heard one complaint from the governor."

Victimhood is a favorite strategy of politicians sinking in a bog of unflattering news stories. In this instance, it also means McDonnell becomes the narrative — again.

Hello! He's a politicion - what's new...


http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2...eg-ar-1756486/

[Riot]

I am starting to pity the Republican state senators who have decided that Big Government mandated health care for women - particularly invasive transvaginal ultrasounds - is within their pervue.

You see, women have taken them up on their self-professed expertise.

Their facebook pages today are filled with women asking them their gynecologic opinions about periods, yeast infections, birth control, etc. And it's pretty damn funny.

You can see some of the victims, and their Facebook page comments, here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...inal-Medicine-

Some samples (there are plenty of other victims now that the meme has caught fire) from VA Senator Ryan McDougle's Facebook page:

*"Quick question for you-is it normal for my period to sync up with other female-bodied people? After doing the Vagina Monologues with 12 others, I got my period sooner! Gosh, ladybits are just so weird and confusing-but I don't have to worry about stuff like that now that you're looking out for me! ...And my vagina. And cervix. And uterus. And ovaries. Thanks for keeping my pretty little head from even having to think about 'down there', Senator Garrett!"

*"Hey, since you’re so interested in my health, I just wanted to let you know that I’ve been really horny lately because I’m ovulating. But don’t worry; I won’t engage in dangerous heterosexual sex that could result in a pregnancy. This is because I’m a really fat and hairy Lesbian and I plan on having sex with women for the rest of my life, the really butchy dykey kind. The current object of my affections, and central character in the majority of the sexual fantasies at the moment, is Alison Bechdel (pictured below). Thanks for showing me the light in regards to my own sexual health, in affirming that having sex with men in more trouble than it’s worth. The fact that women are sexier anyway, it just a happy coincidence."

*"Hello Senator. My daughter is still young, but will one day be a woman, and before I know it she'll be having her 'curse,' if ya know what I mean... it's not easy for kids, especially females, to have to deal with this fact of life. I don't raise my kids to be Christian, even though some of my best friends are, and they have family in Thailand, so essentially they're half Buddhist. My question to you is, is religion aside, what should she expect from a government here in the U.S. that wants to probe her vagina? How do I explain to her the whole 'good touch, bad touch' thing when politicians think it's acceptable to explore vaginas with plastic instruments? Also, is this part of a plan to create jobs somehow?"

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Originally Posted by Riot

I am starting to pity the Republican state senators who have decided that Big Government mandated health care for women - particularly invasive transvaginal ultrasounds - is within their pervue.

You see, women have taken them up on their self-professed expertise.

Their facebook pages today are filled with women asking them their gynecologic opinions about periods, yeast infections, birth control, etc. And it's pretty damn funny.

You can see some of the victims, and their Facebook page comments, here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...inal-Medicine-

Some samples (there are plenty of other victims now that the meme has caught fire) from VA Senator Ryan McDougle's Facebook page:

*"Quick question for you-is it normal for my period to sync up with other female-bodied people? After doing the Vagina Monologues with 12 others, I got my period sooner! Gosh, ladybits are just so weird and confusing-but I don't have to worry about stuff like that now that you're looking out for me! ...And my vagina. And cervix. And uterus. And ovaries. Thanks for keeping my pretty little head from even having to think about 'down there', Senator Garrett!"

*"Hey, since you’re so interested in my health, I just wanted to let you know that I’ve been really horny lately because I’m ovulating. But don’t worry; I won’t engage in dangerous heterosexual sex that could result in a pregnancy. This is because I’m a really fat and hairy Lesbian and I plan on having sex with women for the rest of my life, the really butchy dykey kind. The current object of my affections, and central character in the majority of the sexual fantasies at the moment, is Alison Bechdel (pictured below). Thanks for showing me the light in regards to my own sexual health, in affirming that having sex with men in more trouble than it’s worth. The fact that women are sexier anyway, it just a happy coincidence."

*"Hello Senator. My daughter is still young, but will one day be a woman, and before I know it she'll be having her 'curse,' if ya know what I mean... it's not easy for kids, especially females, to have to deal with this fact of life. I don't raise my kids to be Christian, even though some of my best friends are, and they have family in Thailand, so essentially they're half Buddhist. My question to you is, is religion aside, what should she expect from a government here in the U.S. that wants to probe her vagina? How do I explain to her the whole 'good touch, bad touch' thing when politicians think it's acceptable to explore vaginas with plastic instruments? Also, is this part of a plan to create jobs somehow?"

that is funny and appropriate.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/us...-with-gop.html


just what i figured would occur. this nominating process for the republican party has shown just how far the party has moved to the right. and that also shows just out of touch it has become.
the eventual nominee will then attempt to move center, which will expose him to cries of waffling, lying, etc.
i really wish a viable third party candidate would emerge. i'm tired of choosing between two bad guys. then again, three vomitous masses probably wouldn't be any better.

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http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/11d...d100163e41dd5b

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/11d...d100163e41dd5b