Mitt Romney sold a drugged horse

[Riot]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/an...eys-high-horse

Ann and Mitt Romney sold a dressage horse, Super Hit ($125,000). After sale, the horse was found to have four drugs in it's system as painkillers/sedatives.

The Romney's were sued. The case settled out of court.

The expert witness against the Romney's was an FEI vet.

The horse had a foot problem (coffin bone) and a contralateral compensatory lameness. The drugs found (they are spelled incorrectly in the Buzzfeed article, see the original lab report) were:

Butorphenol - sedative and mild analgesic, opiod
Xylazine - short-term sedation and analgesic, alpha-2 receptor agonist
Detomidine - primarily sedation and some analgesia, alpha-2 agonist, lasts longer than xylazine
Romifidine - used for standing sedation and mild analgesia.

When you combine Xylazine or detomidine or romifidine with butorphenol, you get nice pain control and sedation. With no ataxia (stumbling, tripping, falling over)

Some yahoo put all four in this horse to calm and mask the lamenesses.

Romney is scum.

I don't care if he didn't know about this, and the trainer had a vet do it, or more likely, chose to do it his self, without the Romney's knowledge (very common, unfortunately) - it's cheating, it's fraud, it's deception, it's theft by deception, and worse, it's dangerous for the horse, for the rider.

Money above horse welfare. Eff you, Mitt Romney. I hope your campaign is over now.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Romney's were sued. The case settled out of court.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/an...eys-high-horse

The case with Romney was settled last September and she is no longer involved in the lawsuit.

Originally Posted by Riot

Romney is scum.

I don't care if he didn't know about this, and the trainer had a vet do it, or more likely, chose to do it his self, without the Romney's knowledge (very common, unfortunately) - it's cheating, it's fraud, it's deception, it's theft by deception, and worse, it's dangerous for the horse, for the rider.

Money above horse welfare. Eff you, Mitt Romney. I hope your campaign is over now.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/us...pagewanted=all

Last September, on the eve of a jury trial, Mrs. Romney was dropped from the lawsuit before it was settled out of court.

Nine days after ending her case against Mrs. Romney and the Ebelings, Ms. Norris settled with Dr. Herthel. The veterinarian’s lawyer, Mr. Schwartz, said his client paid no money. “They did not have a viable case and they quit,” he said.

You don't care if Romney didn't know about this -- he's scum even though the vet or trainer might have done it without his knowledge. Wow.

[Riot]

The horse was sold with four drugs in it's system, that, first, must be revealed on a pre-purchase exam if the seller is simply specifically asked, "has the horse had a tranquilizer or painkiller?" and secondly, are a non-medical hodgepodge of painkiller and sedatives not used as a ridiculous cocktail.

When you purchase a horse, it's "buyer beware" 100% of the time. This buyer was smart. The seller was a cheat.

Romney was the owner. The owner is responsible for what his trainer, or his vet, put into the horse, whether he knows about it or not.

There is no way any owner paying the bills would not know this horse was being drugged sound. Before any sale was considered.

Try to explain this away and stand up for Romney. It won't go anywhere. Putting his dog on a crate on the top of the car is nothing compared to the fraud and deceit of selling a lame horse, that has been drugged to mask the lamenesses, for $125,000.

What Quiet is doing is damage control for her God. You see, her God was caught shipping guns to Mexico in order to fuel media propaganda for a gun ban. The sycophants can deflect, defend, attack all they want. Those are the indisputable facts for normal human beings who aren't in a high fructose corn syrup induced coma.

While doing this obvious damage control she abandons humanity and puts one horse above Mexicans and border patrol agents.


For shame. But that's the type of evil we're dealing with.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

When you combine Xylazine or detomidine or romifidine with butorphenol, you get nice pain control and sedation. With no ataxia (stumbling, tripping, falling over.. how would you know...this does explain a few things..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

When you combine Xylazine or detomidine or romifidine with butorphenol, you get nice pain control and sedation. With no ataxia (stumbling, tripping, falling over.. how would you know...this does explain a few things..

I know because I have the DEA license for dispensing those drugs, I know what drugs we use together, and why, and what their effects are.

Your bu.lls.h.ait attempt to imply I'm a cheater is just that - ignorant bull.shi.at.

And there's nothing more pathetic than watching some of you, those who pretend hate those evil cheating race trainers that take your gambling money, try and justify the exact same fraud in Mitt Romney's world.

This has nothing to do with politics. This has nothing to do with Fast and Furious. This, too, has nothing at all to do with Obama, or Buddy Roemer, or Ron Paul. This is not politics. It goes to the man's - Mitt Romney's - ethics and morals.

You guys put your politics before horses? Nice.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

When you combine Xylazine or detomidine or romifidine with butorphenol, you get nice pain control and sedation. With no ataxia (stumbling, tripping, falling over.. how would you know...this does explain a few things..

wow, what a fargin cheapshot that was. "them's fightin words in my country. but we're not in my country." - Shemp Howard

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

What Quiet is doing is damage control for her God. You see, her God was caught shipping guns to Mexico in order to fuel media propaganda for a gun ban. The sycophants can deflect, defend, attack all they want. Those are the indisputable facts for normal human beings who aren't in a high fructose corn syrup induced coma.

While doing this obvious damage control she abandons humanity and puts one horse above Mexicans and border patrol agents.


For shame. But that's the type of evil we're dealing with.

exactly that F&F thing is a total disgrace and that turd Holder can't man up and take responsibility and neither can the turd in the White House.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

exactly that F&F thing is a total disgrace and that turd Holder can't man up and take responsibility and neither can the turd in the White House.

Actually that turd Holder wanted to give Issa viewing of multiple documents, on top of the thousands he's already willingly given to the Committee, and Issa refused. Issa voted for Fast and Furious to start under the Bush administration, btw.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

What Quiet is doing is damage control for her God. You see, her God was caught shipping guns to Mexico in order to fuel media propaganda for a gun ban. The sycophants can deflect, defend, attack all they want. Those are the indisputable facts for normal human beings who aren't in a high fructose corn syrup induced coma.

While doing this obvious damage control she abandons humanity and puts one horse above Mexicans and border patrol agents.


For shame. But that's the type of evil we're dealing with.

speaking of fast and furious...
i see the house oversight committee wants to charge holder with contempt. and that obama invoked executive privilege to withold documents and communications among D of J officials. always a comforting sign from our elected officials.

but that's not important. that pales in comparison to a horse once owned by a candidate's wife.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

speaking of fast and furious...
i see the house oversight committee wants to charge holder with contempt. and that obama invoked executive privilege to withold documents and communications among D of J officials. always a comforting sign from our elected officials.

.

Actually, Holder has already given Issa over 7,000 documents, and told Issa the committee could look at the additional specific documents they want - they just don't want copies of those documents to be released to the public. Issa refused that offer of looking.

After all, Issa swore he'd hold a hearing a day on the Obama administration from when the President was elected. Issa hasn't been able to come up with much, though.

Darryl Issa will teach the Obama administration a lesson for cancelling a Bush gun running program. Issa voted for Fast and Furious when it started under Bush.

I think the contempt vote in the House is next week.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Danzig

speaking of fast and furious...
i see the house oversight committee wants to charge holder with contempt. and that obama invoked executive privilege to withold documents and communications among D of J officials. always a comforting sign from our elected officials.

but that's not important. that pales in comparison to a horse once owned by a candidate's wife.

as allways, riot makes her salient point..i can bash who i want .take things out of context at will,produce a pie chart that backs my insane opinion..romney is scum. obama is god. all he needs is to 'finish the work hes started'....wake the **** up..he has created no new jobs.he ruined our kids future.hes played 100 rounds of golf in his 4 years.i myself would vote for my pet min pin cooper before obama...

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Danzig

speaking of fast and furious...
i see the house oversight committee wants to charge holder with contempt. and that obama invoked executive privilege to withold documents and communications among D of J officials. always a comforting sign from our elected officials.

but that's not important. that pales in comparison to a horse once owned by a candidate's wife.

What is really interesting is the White House had 8 months to claim executive privilege and waited to the last second to do it. What are they hiding? Seems to me that doing this indicates that this may extend right to the emperor himself.

Oh, and

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Riot

There is no way any owner paying the bills would not know this horse was being drugged sound.

Right. No way.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Right. No way.

Right. You clearly didn't read the complaint before you said that silly thing, did you?

Please - you might want to read what happened in detail - and how long the horse was lame before it was put up for sale - before you make assumptions.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Riot

Right. You clearly didn't read the complaint before you said that silly thing, did you?

Please - you might want to read what happened in detail - and how long the horse was lame before it was put up for sale - before you make assumptions.

I read it. I also read this from the NYT piece:

Super Hit, the horse that became the subject of the lawsuit, was bought in Germany in 2003 for about $100,000. At the time, X-rays showed that he had a small abnormality in his left front coffin joint. Mrs. Romney consulted three veterinarians and was told it was “not significant,” according to her deposition in the suit, which was previously reported by The Washington Post.

With Mr. Ebeling training Super Hit and riding him in competitions, he progressed and did well at shows. The horse also regularly received injections of anti-inflammatory drugs to prevent any problems with his coffin joint, which is where the hoof attaches to the lower leg. Veterinary experts say the drugs are commonly given to top-level sport horses.

Though Mrs. Romney loved the horse, calling him “Soupy,” she decided to sell him in late 2007. Riding him, though meant to soothe her multiple sclerosis, had in fact become painful. “I frequently was getting back spasms when I rode Soupy,” she said.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/an...eys-high-horse

Ann and Mitt Romney sold a dressage horse, Super Hit ($125,000). After sale, the horse was found to have four drugs in it's system as painkillers/sedatives.

The Romney's were sued. The case settled out of court.

The expert witness against the Romney's was an FEI vet.

The horse had a foot problem (coffin bone) and a contralateral compensatory lameness. The drugs found (they are spelled incorrectly in the Buzzfeed article, see the original lab report) were:

Butorphenol - sedative and mild analgesic, opiod
Xylazine - short-term sedation and analgesic, alpha-2 receptor agonist
Detomidine - primarily sedation and some analgesia, alpha-2 agonist, lasts longer than xylazine
Romifidine - used for standing sedation and mild analgesia.

When you combine Xylazine or detomidine or romifidine with butorphenol, you get nice pain control and sedation. With no ataxia (stumbling, tripping, falling over)

Some yahoo put all four in this horse to calm and mask the lamenesses.

Romney is scum.

I don't care if he didn't know about this, and the trainer had a vet do it, or more likely, chose to do it his self, without the Romney's knowledge (very common, unfortunately) - it's cheating, it's fraud, it's deception, it's theft by deception, and worse, it's dangerous for the horse, for the rider.

Money above horse welfare. Eff you, Mitt Romney. I hope your campaign is over now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLiCNS86ZYo

[Danzig]

i read the ny times article that was linked by old dog. seems quite a reach to attempt to tie this to mitt.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i read the ny times article that was linked by old dog. seems quite a reach to attempt to tie this to mitt.

Read the actual complaint. Not a synopsis by a reporter.