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Old 07-02-2012, 07:31 AM
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From Kaiser Family Foundation, estimated, with caveats:

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Health Reform Subsidy Calculator
Premium Assistance for Coverage in Exchanges

This tool illustrates premiums and government assistance under the health reform law signed by the President. Beginning in 2014, tax credits will be available for people under age 65 who purchase coverage on their own in a health insurance Exchange and are not covered through their employer, Medicare or Medicaid. The tool allows the user to examine the impact at different income levels, ages, family sizes, and regional costs.

Premium calculations are consistent with estimates of premiums under reform prepared by the Congressional Budget Office. CBO projects that average premiums under reform for the same level of coverage for a given group of enrollees would be 7-10% lower than under the status quo.

However, in many cases coverage will be more comprehensive and accessible than what is typically available today in the non-group market.

As a result, 2014 premiums in the calculator cannot necessarily be compared to what people buying insurance on their own are paying in 2010.

The calculator does not apply to people with coverage available through an employer, where the firm is generally paying for a substantial portion of the insurance premium.

http://healthreform.kff.org/SubsidyCalculator.aspx

And be sure you click on this feature of the website, too http://healthreform.kff.org/en/quizz...uestion-1.aspx
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:09 PM
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The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care.” – Sarah Palin, August 7, 2009

The death panels are back.

Sarah Palin’s vision of a dystopian society in which the elderly and infirm would be required to justify their continued existence before a jury of federal functionaries has been widely ridiculed since she first posted it on Facebook three years ago. It was designated “Lie of the Year” by Politifact, the nonpartisan fact checking website, something that would have mortified and humiliated anyone who was capable of those feelings.

Last week, Palin doubled down. “Though I was called a liar for calling it like it is,” she posted, “many of these accusers finally saw that Obamacare did in fact create a panel of faceless bureaucrats who have the power to make life and death decisions about health care funding.” Note that that’s not actually the claim she made in 2009. Of course, “Obamacare,” a.k.a. the Affordable Care Act, was upheld by the Supreme Court Thursday, which must gratify Team Obama.

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Indeed, falsehoods are harder to kill than a Hollywood zombie. Run them through with fact, and still they shamble forward, fueled by echo chamber media,(Fox news!) ideological tribalism, cognitive dissonance, a certain imperviousness to shame, and an understanding that a lie repeated long enough, loudly enough, becomes, in the minds of those who need to believe it, truth.

That is the lesson of the birthers and truthers, of Sen. Jon Kyl’s “not intended to be a factual statement” about Planned Parenthood, of Glenn Beck’s claim that conservatives founded the Civil Rights Movement, and of pretty much every word Michele Bachmann says. It seems that not only are facts no longer important, but they are not even the point.

Rather, the point is the construction and maintenance of an alternate narrative designed to enhance and exploit the receiver’s fears, his or her sense of prerogatives, entitlement, propriety and morality under siege from outside forces.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/3...#storylink=cpy
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:53 PM
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When lies triumph over facts, we’re done
The Republicans have been screeching lies about health care since it was first discussed. It's continuing today. This weekend on the kiss and cry political shows, Mitch McConnell was in full-blown-pants-on-fire mode.

Fact is, every president has wanted to reform our out-of-control, most-expensive-in-the-world healthcare system. We pay double our GDP what every other top 50 nation pays to have healthcare that millions are unable to access.

They're just pissed the black Democrat got it successfully passed, especially against their total obstruction and middle of the night vote calls.

That Obama used essentially the GOP Heritage Foundation plan presented in 1993 by GOP in the House and Senate as the opposition plan law change to Hillarycare makes it hurt even more.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:49 PM
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The Republicans have been screeching lies about health care since it was first discussed.


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Old 07-02-2012, 04:40 PM
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Does nothing for me. I even put myself in as single, doesnt change jack.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:54 PM
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Does nothing for me. I even put myself in as single, doesnt change jack.
well, at least you will be comforted in knowing you make enough to subsidize others, but not yourself. well, no more than you already do!
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