Why Romney was blindsided by his loss, and why he lost

[Riot]

Two good and thoughtful articles about how Romney managed to be, truly, blindsided by the electoral landslide that buried him and everyone but the conservative bubble saw coming. Just as an aside: about 37% of the country classifies itself as "conservative", about 27% classifies itself as "liberal"

First article about the technical failures of the Romney campaign, their GOTV, their polling, etc.

Why Romney Never Saw It Coming
He was the numbers guy. But in the end his numbers were all wrong.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...ors_picks=true

Inside the Romney campaign massive IT failure on election day:
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...n-it-meltdown/


Second article about how, it's not that conservative policy has failed, but it's what the current conservative movement has embraced - denial of truth, ignoring facts in favor of desired opinion.

"Fantasyland - Denial has poisoned the GOP and threatens the rest of the country too" http://nymag.com/news/frank-rich/gop-denial-2012-11/

[bigrun]

Another reason or 2..

[GenuineRisk]

There was a pretty good piece on Breitbart's site, of all places (yes, I really do go to right wing sites, too), about how GOP ads are made- that there's a limited list of approved people to do it, and if a GOP candidate tries to go off the approved vendors list, the RNC won't give them any money. It's turned into a real gravy train for the approved guys, who are turning out inferior ads and overcharging.

I'll be curious to see if there's an overhaul of the list. I know at my old job we had approved vendors for purchasing, who frequently cost more than other places, but we were given no choice in the matter- we had to spend more for the approved places. Huge waste of limited budget money, I thought.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

There was a pretty good piece on Breitbart's site, of all places (yes, I really do go to right wing sites, too), about how GOP ads are made- that there's a limited list of approved people to do it, and if a GOP candidate tries to go off the approved vendors list, the RNC won't give them any money. It's turned into a real gravy train for the approved guys, who are turning out inferior ads and overcharging.

I'll be curious to see if there's an overhaul of the list. I know at my old job we had approved vendors for purchasing, who frequently cost more than other places, but we were given no choice in the matter- we had to spend more for the approved places. Huge waste of limited budget money, I thought.

they need to overhaul a lot more things than their advertising. they are becoming increasingly marginalized, and it's no one's fault but theirs.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

they need to overhaul a lot more things than their advertising. they are becoming increasingly marginalized, and it's no one's fault but theirs.

Found the article. Here's the link:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...dge-squandered

And an interesting article on how the whole anti-abortion aspect of the evangelical movement is a fairly recent development:

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...re-pro-choice/

I think the GOP will have to make a break with the evangelical movement if they hope to move back to relevancy.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Found the article. Here's the link:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...dge-squandered

And an interesting article on how the whole anti-abortion aspect of the evangelical movement is a fairly recent development:

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...re-pro-choice/

I think the GOP will have to make a break with the evangelical movement if they hope to move back to relevancy.

that one is bizarre to me. i'm amazed at how many people think there were never abortions until roe v wade. but then i'm also amazed that a lot of people think the earth is only 6-9k years old, and that evolution is a fairy tale.
i have to wonder at what is taught in schools. i haven't discussed eohippus with one person down here yet who said 'yeah, i've heard of that'. not one.
i even took a picture of the back of the front leg of a skeleton of a horse, so i could show what a splint bone is.
yes, i'm a nerd.


as for the thread title, i really think that neocons were betting on low turnout, when the opposite was true in many areas. i know down here the talk has been about how many turned out compared to past elections.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Found the article. Here's the link:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...dge-squandered

And an interesting article on how the whole anti-abortion aspect of the evangelical movement is a fairly recent development:

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...re-pro-choice/I think the GOP will have to make a break with the evangelical movement if they hope to move back to relevancy.

read the article, amazing how the movement changes it stance, within 15 years time-and that what the bible said wasn't what the bible said....or was it??

kinda like when the current pope declared that limbo, after all these centuries, didn't exist after all.