For Pgardn and other scientists

Downthestretch55 · #1 09-26-2006, 04:29 PM

I found this opinion and thought you might enjoy.

http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/c...hp?ntid=100359

timmgirvan · #2 09-26-2006, 04:47 PM

BULL-PUCKY.....thinly veiled hatchet job on all things Bush,again! Adult stem cells have proven just as usefull as those from embryos. Another thing, would you have any idea as to the side effects from the morning-after pill? Just an innocent question. All the scientists are so altruistic....give me a break...sheer economic pressure behooves these people to find a Grant or endowment.

Downthestretch55 · #3 09-26-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

BULL-PUCKY.....thinly veiled hatchet job on all things Bush,again! Adult stem cells have proven just as usefull as those from embryos. Another thing, would you have any idea as to the side effects from the morning-after pill? Just an innocent question. All the scientists are so altruistic....give me a break...sheer economic pressure behooves these people to find a Grant or endowment.

Timm,
Unless you are a scientist, I'll take your view for just what it is. "Bull pucky".
My son is a phd post doc geneticist, doing stem cell research to find answers to cardio defects.
Yes, grant money has been reduced by the Bushies too...
A shame.
Politics should have nothing to do with science.
What research are you working on, and where can I find what you've published?

timmgirvan · #4 09-26-2006, 05:12 PM

Wow,I guess you put me in my place,huh? You must be a 'respecter of persons',right? Happy that your son has found his calling,but you didnt respond about adult stem cells, cuz it didn't fit Your agenda! I don't have to be a scientist to engage in discourse, just as you don't have to be a politician to rant about Bush.

Danzig · #5 09-26-2006, 05:26 PM

'that no federal dollars could be used for research'

i took that out of the article above. no fed funds. doesn't say that they can't study stem cells, only that the federal govt won't fund it. private groups are free to do so.

Downthestretch55 · #6 09-26-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Wow,I guess you put me in my place,huh? You must be a 'respecter of persons',right? Happy that your son has found his calling,but you didnt respond about adult stem cells, cuz it didn't fit Your agenda! I don't have to be a scientist to engage in discourse, just as you don't have to be a politician to rant about Bush.

Timm,
I don't know much about "adult stem cells".
The area of interest is embryonic stem cells.
The only thing that Bush did was limit the cell lines that can be investigated.
That's not science...that's politics.
Hmmm...any votes from the "religious right" out there?

btw...the article made no mention of "intelligent design". How quickly we forget!

timmgirvan · #7 09-26-2006, 05:47 PM

You are still all over the map....Ask your son,then about them. It was in the news this week. Scientists want carte blanche with public funds....it cant happen like that any more. Everybody needs to account for expenses. WTH is with the I.D. crack? You obfuscate the real issues by your ceaseless rhetoric.