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Old 08-28-2013, 09:26 AM
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Readily admitted on twitter how bad he's doing handicapping Saratoga of late. I had friends up for the weekend attending the races and urged them to pay attention to Andy's selections since they are new to the game. Every 'unbeatable' or 'free square' favorite lost while his beat the favorite selections were all up the track. My friends unfortunately went broke.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:31 AM
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:41 AM
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:03 AM
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Since this is apparently Andy Serling Day, I would like to say that the National Racing Report is absolutely the best racing show out there.

Great job Andy and some of us really value your work!
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:04 AM
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Since this is apparently Andy Serling Day, I would like to say that the National Racing Report is absolutely the best racing show out there.

Great job Andy and some of us really value your work!
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:31 AM
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of course...his 3rd post nonetheless...
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:58 AM
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Gamble at your own risk. Advise friends how to gamble? Never. Show them how to read the form, offer encouragement. If their horse doesn't come in? Well, that's horse racing.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:08 AM
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Readily admitted on twitter how bad he's doing handicapping Saratoga of late. I had friends up for the weekend attending the races and urged them to pay attention to Andy's selections since they are new to the game. Every 'unbeatable' or 'free square' favorite lost while his beat the favorite selections were all up the track. My friends unfortunately went broke.
Maybe your friends, and maybe you, should just learn from his methodology, how he views certain races and horses, and his thoughts instead of being lemmings and following every pick of a public handicapper.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:15 AM
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Maybe your friends, and maybe you, should just learn from his methodology, how he views certain races and horses, and his thoughts instead of being lemmings and following every pick of a public handicapper.
hear, hear......sound advice.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:29 AM
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Readily admitted on twitter how bad he's doing handicapping Saratoga of late. I had friends up for the weekend attending the races and urged them to pay attention to Andy's selections since they are new to the game. Every 'unbeatable' or 'free square' favorite lost while his beat the favorite selections were all up the track. My friends unfortunately went broke.
Sorry your friends lost. Especially being new to the track it's not the outcome anybody wants when it comes to making them become more involved in the game. Having said that, I find your comments way off base. There's not a public handicapper out there, much less any handicapper on this site, who's right all the time! Sometimes we see races one way on paper, then when they spring the latch it goes a different way from a pace standpoint, or in a ton of frustrating times, a jockey decision standpoint. I don't think there's a man in this game who watches more replays, or works any harder than one Andy Serling. He does a terrific job, these are opinions and we all have them good or bad. I respect Andy for the information he provides, and the work he does. I have not had the pleasure to meet Andy in person, but he is a class act.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:00 PM
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Sorry your friends lost. Especially being new to the track it's not the outcome anybody wants when it comes to making them become more involved in the game. Having said that, I find your comments way off base. There's not a public handicapper out there, much less any handicapper on this site, who's right all the time! Sometimes we see races one way on paper, then when they spring the latch it goes a different way from a pace standpoint, or in a ton of frustrating times, a jockey decision standpoint. I don't think there's a man in this game who watches more replays, or works any harder than one Andy Serling. He does a terrific job, these are opinions and we all have them good or bad. I respect Andy for the information he provides, and the work he does. I have not had the pleasure to meet Andy in person, but he is a class act.

He is also much shorter in person.
Him and the boss put the hours in, its hard work they do so we dont have to. Its a great edge to have guys that could make a ton of money keeping their opinions to themselves, but don't, for a greater love of the sport. It's noble work, and should be applauded.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:02 PM
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He is also much shorter in person.
Him and the boss put the hours in, its hard work they do so we dont have to. Its a great edge to have guys that could make a ton of money keeping their opinions to themselves, but don't, for a greater love of the sport. It's noble work, and should be applauded.
Noble work is Doctors Without Borders....but I digress.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:18 PM
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I used to think EMT's did noble work, but they just like to play with the sirens.
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:51 PM
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I used to think EMT's did noble work
And to think Riot left that line of work to double-dose defenseless horses.
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:12 PM
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Fowler has a lot to learn about introducing newcomers to the track. C'mon if you are going to say Andy has no class he at least has to snub you. Bad selections? NOBODY wins everyday.

Andy is one of the best public handicappers in the game. He works very hard and goes above and beyond to respond to questions via email, twitter and of course his appearances on Steve's At the Races. He has set the bar pretty high for handicapping commentators.

We all know how tough this game is and even the VERY BEST like Andy will have their off meets. If I had to go to war at the races I would want Andy in the fox hole right next to me!
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:34 PM
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:42 PM
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I was having a great meet until Travers week or maybe even Travers day.

Now I'm going to cry.
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:45 PM
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Perhaps I should have expanded. All horseplayers go bad but it's the ones with credibility that admit it.
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:56 PM
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If you were closer to the game and paid attention you'd know that if you play Andy's selections and they lose, simply find him at the track and will reimburse your wagers.

After all, this if for fun.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:33 PM
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If you were closer to the game and paid attention you'd know that if you play Andy's selections and they lose, simply find him at the track and will reimburse your wagers.

After all, this if for fun.
This reminded me of the episode of "Fresh Prince" when Will and Carlton went to Vegas and lost all their money, then went and asked Wayne Newton to give it back. Fun times.........
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