Rahm In Chitown

[randallscott35]

Heck of job Rahm. The new murder capital of the US and a day after 13 shot on playground, 5 dead and 6 shot last night...At least the summer is almost over. Less people outside to shoot at or with.

[randallscott35]

Chicago had the highest homicide rate in the nation in 2012, with 500 killings, according to FBI statistics. Los Angeles, with about a million more residents than Chicago, had 299 homicides last year.

[dellinger63]

By no means am I a Rahm fan but the murder problem in Chicago has nothing to do with him. He's tried to raise mandatory minimums for gun crimes and was denied because it would unfairly target minorities (African Americans) as they are the ones most often charged. He's put more police on the street, focused on the few small areas responsible for 90% of the violence etc. etc.

The argument that Rahm's raise in the mandatory/minimum sentence unfairly targeting minorities ignores the fact that in Chicago 75% of murder victims and 70% of murder offenders are African American. It makes perfect sense they are the ones most often charged. If any one person needs to be blamed it's Jesse Sr.

BTW as I stated in a previous thread the gun violence in Chicago for the most part is gang related only instead of drug dealers shooting it out over corners you now have tweeners killing over social media insults.

The 13 people that were recently shot in the park at 10:30 at night were Gangster Disciples including the family members of the 3-year old.

For the most part the murder rate in Chicago is much more of a small neighborhood problem rather than city-wide. And the majority of murders committed involve criminals killing criminals. It only becomes national news when a innocent 3-year old child, albeit a child from a family of gangsters, is a victim. And today I heard some dingbat on CNN blame the healthcare system in Chicago for the high murder rate.

[randallscott35]

I just don't like Rahm.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

By no means am I a Rahm fan but the murder problem in Chicago has nothing to do with him. He's tried to raise mandatory minimums for gun crimes and was denied because it would unfairly target minorities (African Americans) as they are the ones most often charged. He's put more police on the street, focused on the few small areas responsible for 90% of the violence etc. etc.

The argument that Rahm's raise in the mandatory/minimum sentence unfairly targeting minorities ignores the fact that in Chicago 75% of murder victims and 70% of murder offenders are African American. It makes perfect sense they are the ones most often charged. If any one person needs to be blamed it's Jesse Sr.

BTW as I stated in a previous thread the gun violence in Chicago for the most part is gang related only instead of drug dealers shooting it out over corners you now have tweeners killing over social media insults.

The 13 people that were recently shot in the park at 10:30 at night were Gangster Disciples including the family members of the 3-year old.

For the most part the murder rate in Chicago is much more of a small neighborhood problem rather than city-wide. And the majority of murders committed involve criminals killing criminals. It only becomes national news when a innocent 3-year old child, albeit a child from a family of gangsters, is a victim. And today I heard some dingbat on CNN blame the healthcare system in Chicago for the high murder rate.

And...although I know you will disagree, but he just got concealed carry shoved down his throat too

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GBBob

And...although I know you will disagree, but he just got concealed carry shoved down his throat too

Meanwhile police who know who the gangbangers are and who's likely carrying can't approach or pull over w/o probable cause. Why, because the poor innocent people that live in the 'hood are misrepresented by the likes of Jesse Jax who cry racism over stop and pat and blame everything and everyone but the gangbangers for the violence.

The innocent residents (the majority) are forced to look and duck being too afraid to confront the bangers themselves. At least in 2014 they'll have the option to protect themselves and stop being forced to live as sheep among wolves.

Jesse, Bobby Rush et al need to start representing the majority of the minority and stop the damage the minority of the minority is committing. Fat chance that will ever happen as there's no walkin around money there.

[GenuineRisk]

The problem with "highest number" is that it can be very misleading, since the numbers of murders must always be compared to the population size of a city. "Per capita" is the number you want to look at to get a sense of a city's actual murder rate and, from that standpoint, Chicago doesn't even make the top 25:

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/...an-cities.html

Put another way, my current home city had over 400 murders last year, compared with my childhood city, which had 12. But believe me, I consider NYC a lot safer than Harrisburg, PA. And in fact Harrisburg rates much higher than NYC (16.1 per 1000 people, vs. 3.86 for New York City). Chicago is even lower than H'burg (15.9), and much lower than New Orleans, Detroit, Ft. Myers and Pine Bluff, AK.

GBBob makes an interesting point about whether concealed carry will affect the murder rate in Chicago- the article at the link concludes with a brief look at murders in Chicago after handgun control was passed in the early 1980s.

I'm not claiming Chicago's murder rate is cause for celebration, but it's hardly a "murder capital." It's always important to put numbers into context. No matter how much one may hate Rahm.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Jesse, Bobby Rush et al need to start representing the majority of the minority and stop the damage the minority of the minority is committing. Fat chance that will ever happen as there's no walkin around money there.

As I predicted fat chance.

Black criminals killing black criminals with a black 'father of a criminal' minister and black politicians looking out for them. At least Rahm tried.

When will the African American community wake up and say we're not going to take it anymore? Until then let the killings resume!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,6598197.story