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Old 12-30-2013, 05:05 PM
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Horse of the Year: 1st - Wise Dan, 2nd - Mucho Macho Man, 3rd - Game On Dude

Two-Year-Old Male: 1st - Havana, 2nd - New Year's Day, 3rd - Honor Code
Two-Year-Old Filly: 1st - She's a Tiger, 2nd - My Conquestadory, 3rd - Ria Antonia

Three-Year-Old Male: 1st - Will Take Charge, 2nd - Verrazano, 3rd - Orb
Three-Year-Old Filly: 1st - Beholder, 2nd - Princess of Sylmar, 3rd - Close Hatches

Older Male: 1st - Mucho Macho Man, 2nd - Game On Dude, 3rd - Flat Out
Older Female: 1st - Royal Delta, 2nd - Authenticity, 3rd - Tiz Miz Sue

Male Sprinter: 1st - Points Offthebench, 2nd - Sahara Sky, 3rd - Private Zone
Female Sprinter: 1st - Groupie Doll, 2nd - Dance to Bristol, 3rd - Judy the Beauty

Male Turf Horse: 1st - Wise Dan, 2nd - Magician, 3rd - Point of Entry
Female Turf Horse: 1st - Dank, 2nd - Laughing, 3rd - Mizdirection

Steeplechase Horse: 1st - Gustavian, 2nd - Divine Fortune, 3rd - Italian Wedding

Owner: 1st - Ken and Katherine Ramsey, 2nd - Gary and Mary West, 3rd - Richard Santulli
Breeder: 1st - Ken and Katherine Ramsey, 2nd - Adena Springs, 3rd - Emory A. Hamilton

Jockey: 1st - Gary Stevens, 2nd - Joel Rosario, 3rd - Javier Castellano
Apprentice Jockey: 1st - Victor Carrasco, 2nd - Manny Franco, 3rd - Edgard Zayas

Trainer: 1st - Todd Pletcher, 2nd - Claude Ray McGaughey III, 3rd - Tom Proctor
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:12 PM
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As part of the balloting process, was shocked that Authenticity was somehow omitted from PP's sent to voters for Older Filly/Mare. She banked $883k in '13 earnings, 2nd to Royal Delta's $1.1MM. There were very few real candidates in the division and yet Funny Proposition -- a Fleur Dis Lis winner her lone graded stake start -- makes the list while 9/3-4-2 Authenticity doesn't. All Authenticity did was win the La Troienne and Shuvee and hit the board in all 4 of her G1 appearences: 3rd BC Distaff, 2nd Zenyatta, 2nd Personal Ensign, 2nd Ogden Phipps.

Along with Royal Delta and Funny Proposition on the list, the other stalwarts offered for your consideration were Byrama, Joyful Victory, Lady of Fifty, On Fire Baby and Tiz Miz Sue. It's a glaring mistake and not the only oversight...
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:11 PM
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As part of the balloting process, was shocked that Authenticity was somehow omitted from PP's sent to voters for Older Filly/Mare. She banked $883k in '13 earnings, 2nd to Royal Delta's $1.1MM. There were very few real candidates in the division and yet Funny Proposition -- a Fleur Dis Lis winner her lone graded stake start -- makes the list while 9/3-4-2 Authenticity doesn't. All Authenticity did was win the La Troienne and Shuvee and hit the board in all 4 of her G1 appearences: 3rd BC Distaff, 2nd Zenyatta, 2nd Personal Ensign, 2nd Ogden Phipps.

Along with Royal Delta and Funny Proposition on the list, the other stalwarts offered for your consideration were Byrama, Joyful Victory, Lady of Fifty, On Fire Baby and Tiz Miz Sue. It's a glaring mistake and not the only oversight....
Simply another in a long list of examples of wide spread racing industry incompetence

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Old 12-31-2013, 10:42 AM
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As part of the balloting process, was shocked that Authenticity was somehow omitted from PP's sent to voters for Older Filly/Mare. She banked $883k in '13 earnings, 2nd to Royal Delta's $1.1MM. There were very few real candidates in the division and yet Funny Proposition -- a Fleur Dis Lis winner her lone graded stake start -- makes the list while 9/3-4-2 Authenticity doesn't. All Authenticity did was win the La Troienne and Shuvee and hit the board in all 4 of her G1 appearences: 3rd BC Distaff, 2nd Zenyatta, 2nd Personal Ensign, 2nd Ogden Phipps.

Along with Royal Delta and Funny Proposition on the list, the other stalwarts offered for your consideration were Byrama, Joyful Victory, Lady of Fifty, On Fire Baby and Tiz Miz Sue. It's a glaring mistake and not the only oversight...
Smells of anti satishism
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:54 AM
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Smells of anti satishism
Interesting you say that Fred because it popped into my head at first too. However, research into the situation with those most in the know brought out reality of simply a poor, sloppy execution of assembling the info.
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:45 PM
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Horse of the Year: 1st - Wise Dan, 2nd - Mucho Macho Man, 3rd - Game On Dude

Two-Year-Old Male: 1st - Havana, 2nd - New Year's Day, 3rd - Honor Code
Two-Year-Old Filly: 1st - She's a Tiger, 2nd - My Conquestadory, 3rd - Ria Antonia

Three-Year-Old Male: 1st - Will Take Charge, 2nd - Verrazano, 3rd - Orb
Three-Year-Old Filly: 1st - Beholder, 2nd - Princess of Sylmar, 3rd - Close Hatches

Older Male: 1st - Mucho Macho Man, 2nd - Game On Dude, 3rd - Flat Out
Older Female: 1st - Royal Delta, 2nd - Authenticity, 3rd - Tiz Miz Sue

Male Sprinter: 1st - Points Offthebench, 2nd - Sahara Sky, 3rd - Private Zone
Female Sprinter: 1st - Groupie Doll, 2nd - Dance to Bristol, 3rd - Judy the Beauty

Male Turf Horse: 1st - Wise Dan, 2nd - Magician, 3rd - Point of Entry
Female Turf Horse: 1st - Dank, 2nd - Laughing, 3rd - Mizdirection

Steeplechase Horse: 1st - Gustavian, 2nd - Divine Fortune, 3rd - Italian Wedding

Owner: 1st - Ken and Katherine Ramsey, 2nd - Gary and Mary West, 3rd - Richard Santulli
Breeder: 1st - Ken and Katherine Ramsey, 2nd - Adena Springs, 3rd - Emory A. Hamilton

Jockey: 1st - Gary Stevens, 2nd - Joel Rosario, 3rd - Javier Castellano
Apprentice Jockey: 1st - Victor Carrasco, 2nd - Manny Franco, 3rd - Edgard Zayas

Trainer: 1st - Todd Pletcher, 2nd - Claude Ray McGaughey III, 3rd - Tom Proctor
Stevens is amazing, and its an amazing story and I hope he keeps riding great for a long time, but the other 2 jocks had better years. I prefer Stevens all day especially to Javier, but whats fair is fair.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:06 PM
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Is everyone's ballot public? If not, it should be.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:15 PM
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Is everyone's ballot public? If not, it should be.
DRF and Turf Writers/Broadcasters segments are public. If I'm not mistaken, the NTRA votes as a 'block' and make-up of their balloting doesn't come out.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:21 PM
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Delving further into other categories, some more bizarre omissions from printed PP's sent to voters? Animal Kingdom, Sweet Lulu, Streaming...
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:24 PM
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Delving further into other categories, some more bizarre omissions from printed PP's sent to voters? Animal Kingdom, Sweet Lulu, Streaming...
Crazy... Not just because shes a Baffert, but Streaming could have actually won the thing.
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:16 AM
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Delving further into other categories, some more bizarre omissions from printed PP's sent to voters? Animal Kingdom, Sweet Lulu, Streaming...
Animal Kingdom finished 2nd in his one US race. If he was an "omission" then surely there were MANY others.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:22 PM
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Well I appreciate that you made yours public.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:13 PM
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Stevens is amazing, and its an amazing story and I hope he keeps riding great for a long time, but the other 2 jocks had better years. I prefer Stevens all day especially to Javier, but whats fair is fair.
All 3 -- and Mike Smith too -- deserve support. Castellano and Rosario will win plenty of Eclipse Awards in coming years and for me the Stevens season stands out as a unique and monumental accomplishment.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:23 PM
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All 3 -- and Mike Smith too -- deserve support. Castellano and Rosario will win plenty of Eclipse Awards in coming years and for me the Stevens season stands out as a unique and monumental accomplishment.
Fair enough. And my personal preference is Smith and Stevens I love both of them.
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