Discreet Cat - Sprint or Nothing

Appears he is going to go in the Sprint or Cigar Mile. Should be a very interesting sprint race if he goes.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Appears he is going to go in the Sprint or Cigar Mile. Should be a very interesting sprint race if he goes.

I'd be very surprised if he went in the sprint. Stunned would be a better word. No way do they cut him back and ask him to mix it up in a big field with a scorching pace.
Hes been attending much more moderate fractions and asking him to go with or rate off a 44 half mile would be too much of a shock, and they know it.
My guess is that they are just putting it out there to have people believe that they are considering it.
I'd guess its 10-1 against him running there. The Vosburgh runners and Ancient Title runners would have to really flop.

Originally Posted by oracle80

I'd be very surprised if he went in the sprint. Stunned would be a better word. No way do they cut him back and ask him to mix it up in a big field with a scorching pace.
Hes been attending much more moderate fractions and asking him to go with or rate off a 44 half mile would be too much of a shock, and they know it.
My guess is that they are just putting it out there to have people believe that they are considering it.
I'd guess its 10-1 against him running there. The Vosburgh runners and Ancient Title runners would have to really flop.

I agree 100%.

And you can make that 1000-1 if Henny Hughes runs big this weekend.
They've shown complete disdain in regards to running their horses against each other on anything but World Cup Day in Dubai.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Cigar Mile then Dubai World Cup

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by oracle80

And you can make that 1000-1 if Henny Hughes runs big this weekend.
They've shown complete disdain in regards to running their horses against each other on anything but World Cup Day in Dubai.

I think the only chance of them running him in the Sprint is if Henny loses Saturday.

[Gander]

If Henny Hughes loses on Saturday? If ?
You guys are acting like Henny Hughes is this overwhelming favorite like Bernardini running against no competition.

Wrong. He has to beat 2 of the best older sprinters in training, Silver Train and War Front. Hes going to face pace pressure like hes never seen before with stalkers and closers that can actually run. In addition, Whos the Cowboy has some huge numbers, albeit against much lesser in Jersey. But while he hasnt exactly been beating world beaters, neither has Henny Hughes.

I dont think Henny Hughes losing in the Vosburgh would be a big disgrace and certainly nothing that would immediately thrust Discreet Cat into the BC Sprint in his place.

This is a huge acid test for Henny. Not saying he cant win, but lets be reasonable here. Hes a 3 year old against 2 or 3 very nice older horses.

I dont think Henny has to win, per se, just not disgrace himself. I think Henny is better than he's shown so far. Lets see if im right.

[SniperSB23]

I don't think the intent here is to argue whether or not Henny will win. The point is that if Henny wins the Vosburgh we will not see Discreet Cat in the BC Sprint. It seems we all pretty much agree on that.

Originally Posted by oracle80

And you can make that 1000-1 if Henny Hughes runs big this weekend.
They've shown complete disdain in regards to running their horses against each other on anything but World Cup Day in Dubai.

There's the point that should be taken. It would have to be a poor showing by Henny to make them choose the Sprint. And they wont go against their big boy in Bernadini... we wont see him on BC day.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Balletto

There's the point that should be taken. It would have to be a poor showing by Henny to make them choose the Sprint. And they wont go against their big boy in Bernadini... we wont see him on BC day.

Which just goes to show that they think Discreet Cat MAY be a better horse than Bernardini. Where's the fun in that?

Bernadini is the better stallion prospect... where's the money in that? lol

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Balletto

Bernadini is the better stallion prospect... where's the money in that? lol

Well, if they're supposed to be such "sporting" people, you would think they'd want to have a bit of fun. And besides... what are they worried about? If Bernardini is the greatest thing ever (like everyone else around here keeps posting), then why should they worry about Discreet Cat? Personally, I think it only proves that Bernardini ISN'T what everyone keeps cracking him up to be.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Which just goes to show that they think Discreet Cat MAY be a better horse than Bernardini. Where's the fun in that?

I don't think that's what it means at all.

Why should it be assumed that because DC is not going to the Classic that the Sheikh is afraid to run Bernardini against DC? The simplest explanation is the best: it's asking too much of the Cat to run against top horses after being sparingly raced this year. It's also very possible that the Sheikh thinks Bernardini is a better horse than DC - it would hardly be a stretch to think that.