Federal Hate Crimes

[dellinger63]

A Houston-area man has been charged with hate crimes after allegedly punching a 79-year-old black man in a “knockout game” attack, breaking his jaw, prosecutors said.

Conrad Alvin Barrett, 27, who is white, allegedly filmed the Nov. 24 attack on his cell phone.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-ma...ockout-attack/

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Barry Baldwin, 35, punched out the victims between Nov. 9 and Christmas Eve in Canarsie and Midwood, police said.

All of the victims were white women and most were Jewish, a law-enforcement source said. At least two of the attacks occurred on the Sabbath.

On Nov. 9, Baldwin allegedly socked a 78-year-old Midwood woman while she pushed her great-granddaughter’s stroller at Avenue L and East Fifth Street. The elderly victim was knocked to the ground in the unprovoked attack.

Nearly a month later, he punched a 20-year-old in the head, at around 2:40 p.m. on Dec. 7, cops said.

Baldwin’s next target was a 33-year-old mom walking with her 7-year-old daughter on Elm Street near East 12th Street on Dec. 21 in Midwood, cops said.The victim fell onto the child before crashing to the ground, police said. She suffered cuts and bruises to her head, hands and knees, according to a Criminal Court complaint.

A 78-year-old sitting in on a bench in Canarsie was the next to suffer the crazed attacker’s wrath on Christmas Eve.

Fifteen minutes later, he attacked another elderly woman nearby at corner of East 93rd Street and Seaview Avenue, court *papers charge.

A 38-year-old woman ducked Baldwin’s swing when he attacked her on Dec. 26, on Seaview Avenue in Canarsie, cops said.

The next day, he attacked his final victim on the same street while she talked on a cellphone, police said.

Prosecutors tacked on menacing charges and one count of endangering the welfare of a child for punching out the mom who fell onto her 7-year-old.

http://nypost.com/2014/01/04/cops-ma...nockout-spree/

One case will be prosecuted federally and one will be handled locally.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

A Houston-area man has been charged with hate crimes after allegedly punching a 79-year-old black man in a “knockout game” attack, breaking his jaw, prosecutors said.

Conrad Alvin Barrett, 27, who is white, allegedly filmed the Nov. 24 attack on his cell phone.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-ma...ockout-attack/

Next Case,

Barry Baldwin, 35, punched out the victims between Nov. 9 and Christmas Eve in Canarsie and Midwood, police said.

All of the victims were white women and most were Jewish, a law-enforcement source said. At least two of the attacks occurred on the Sabbath.

On Nov. 9, Baldwin allegedly socked a 78-year-old Midwood woman while she pushed her great-granddaughter’s stroller at Avenue L and East Fifth Street. The elderly victim was knocked to the ground in the unprovoked attack.

Nearly a month later, he punched a 20-year-old in the head, at around 2:40 p.m. on Dec. 7, cops said.

Baldwin’s next target was a 33-year-old mom walking with her 7-year-old daughter on Elm Street near East 12th Street on Dec. 21 in Midwood, cops said.The victim fell onto the child before crashing to the ground, police said. She suffered cuts and bruises to her head, hands and knees, according to a Criminal Court complaint.

A 78-year-old sitting in on a bench in Canarsie was the next to suffer the crazed attacker’s wrath on Christmas Eve.

Fifteen minutes later, he attacked another elderly woman nearby at corner of East 93rd Street and Seaview Avenue, court *papers charge.

A 38-year-old woman ducked Baldwin’s swing when he attacked her on Dec. 26, on Seaview Avenue in Canarsie, cops said.

The next day, he attacked his final victim on the same street while she talked on a cellphone, police said.

Prosecutors tacked on menacing charges and one count of endangering the welfare of a child for punching out the mom who fell onto her 7-year-old.

http://nypost.com/2014/01/04/cops-ma...nockout-spree/

One case will be prosecuted federally and one will be handled locally.

I hear ya. Total Bullshit. I would have a hard time thinking even Riot could justify this

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

I hear ya. Total Bullshit. I would have a hard time thinking even Riot could justify this

You underestimate all that is Riot.

[GenuineRisk]

Except, of course, that Barry Baldwin's alleged assaults are being charged as hate crimes, so your point is invalid. Nice try, though.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/04/justic...saults-arrest/

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Except, of course, that Barry Baldwin's alleged assaults are being charged as hate crimes, so your point is invalid. Nice try, though.

Except I stated "One case will be prosecuted federally and one will be handled locally."

My point is one will face federal prosecution, the minimum of 10 years that comes with it and most importantly the requirement of doing 85% of the sentence. Conrad Alvin Barrett was ordered held without bond on 12/27.

We'll see about Baldwin when he is arraigned in STATE Court presumably tomorrow. One thing we do know is that if Baldwin was being prosecuted federally he'd be facing 70 years minimum (not counting the child endangerment charge) and would have no chance at bail. Even at the minimum he'd do 59.5 years and be over 94 when he gets out, effectively removing him from society permanently.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Except I stated "One case will be prosecuted federally and one will be handled locally."

My point is one will face federal prosecution, the minimum of 10 years that comes with it and most importantly the requirement of doing 85% of the sentence. Conrad Alvin Barrett was ordered held without bond on 12/27.

We'll see about Baldwin when he is arraigned in STATE Court presumably tomorrow. One thing we do know is that if Baldwin was being prosecuted federally he'd be facing 70 years minimum (not counting the child endangerment charge) and would have no chance at bail. Even at the minimum he'd do 59.5 years and be over 94 when he gets out, effectively removing him from society permanently.

I apologize; I misunderstood your original post.

It could also be because the feds figured they can't make the case for it. Baldwin's assault charges have been downgraded from hate crimes (since the victims were all Jewish, that was why the initial charges were brought) so I'm guessing the NYPD figures it can't make the case for hate crimes.

The guy in Texas, from what he's quoted as saying in the articles, is much clearer about his motives. Sounds like defense will counter that he's mentally ill (his family says he's bi-polar).

The legal system doesn't want to bring charges it doesn't think it can prove. As we saw in the State of Florida's reluctance to bring charges against George Zimmerman. And they did, under public pressure, bring charges and they couldn't prove them. And fortunately for us all, Zimmerman has shown what a fine, upstanding citizen he is since then, what with his choking a pregnant woman and selling plagiarized "art."

But it comes down to what they think they can prove. NYS doesn't think it can prove the victims being Jewish was what motivated Baldwin, so they dropped that charge. He's still charged with assault, of course.