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Old 02-15-2014, 11:46 PM
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5th (2:00) San Felipe S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Home Run Kitten Quinonez A 118 L
2 Unstoppable Colby Saez L 118 L
3 Rprettyboyfloyd Nakatani C S 118 L
4 California Chrome Espinoza V 118 L
5 Sawyer's Hill Garcia M 118 L
6 Bayern Stevens G L 118 L
7 Kristo Rosario J 118 L
8 Schoolofhardrocks Talamo J 118 FTL
9 Midnight Hawk Smith M E 120 L
10 Recanted Gutierrez Mario 118 L



6th (2:30) China Doll S.

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Anniversary Kitty Nakatani C S 117 L
2 Loan Savant Gutierrez Mario 117 L
3 Sushi Empire Espinoza V 122 L
4 Soresca (IRE) SutherlandKruse C 117 L
5 Screen Goddess Rosario J 117 L
6 Tiz Kissable Baze T C 117 L
7 Nashoba's Gold Talamo J 117 L
8 Diversy Harbor Stevens G L 117 L
9 Uzziel Blanc B 117 L
10 Sheza Smoke Show Saez L 117 L
11 On the Backstreets Bejarano R 117 L
12 Savings Account Smith M E 117 L
13 Full Ransom Desormeaux K J 122 L



7th (3:00) San Carlos S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Sahara Sky Rosario J 120 L
2 Clubhouse Ride Baze T C 120 L
3 Zeewat Nakatani C S 118 L
4 Big Macher Saez L 118 L
5 Cyclometer Talamo J 118 L
6 Wild Dude Bejarano R 123 L
7 Ready for More Garcia M 118 L
8 Let's Get Crackin Delgadillo A 118 L
9 Midnight Transfer Espinoza V 118 L
10 Shakin It Up Smith M E 123 L



8th (3:30) Frank E. Kilroe Mile S. (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $350,000

1 Lochte Bocachica O 123 L
2 Regally Ready Smith M E 118 L
3 Optimizer Saez L 118 L
4 Suggestive Boy (ARG) Talamo J 118 L
5 Za Approval Rosario J 118 L
6 Winning Prize (ARG) Nakatani C S 118 L
7 Horizontalyspeakin Maldonado E 118 L
8 Tom's Tribute Stevens G L 118 L
9 Silentio Bejarano R 118 L
10 Lakerville Desormeaux K J 118 L



9th (4:00) Santa Anita H. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Will Take Charge Saez (2-1) L 123
2 Mucho Macho Man Stevens G L (9-5) 124 L
3 Blingo Gryder A T (8-1) 117 L
4 Imperative Desormeaux K J (12-1) 114 L
5 Rousing Sermon Bejarano R 114 (12-1) L
6 American Blend Talamo J 114 (20-1) L
7 Game On Dude Smith M E 122 (5-2) L
8 Hear the Ghost Rosario J 114 (20-1) L

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Old 02-16-2014, 12:56 AM
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Will Take Charge, Lea, Game on Dude, and MMM. Thats going to be a monster race. Glad these A-list horses opted to stay in the US rather than go to Dubai.
Serves them right for installing a poly-track in a land surrounded by sand.
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Old 02-16-2014, 12:57 AM
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I'm skeptical about Lea running.
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Old 02-16-2014, 02:19 AM
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Seriously? I thought they'd all duck each other until November (if they all stay in training that long). This is awesome news.

But... I still don't understand why MMM isn't going to Dubai. 4th place money in that race is worth more than a Big Cap win. If he wins over the Dubai surface, it adds to his stud value. And he can rest until Saratoga and campaign upto the BC after. I just don't think he had much to lose by going to Dubai.

But is they really all show up at SA, this is pretty cool
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:12 AM
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Only one missing is Wise Dan.
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Old 02-16-2014, 07:18 AM
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Only one missing is Wise Dan.
Wise Dan is not in serious training yet.
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Old 02-16-2014, 11:01 AM
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Seriously? I thought they'd all duck each other until November (if they all stay in training that long). This is awesome news.

But... I still don't understand why MMM isn't going to Dubai. 4th place money in that race is worth more than a Big Cap win. If he wins over the Dubai surface, it adds to his stud value. And he can rest until Saratoga and campaign upto the BC after. I just don't think he had much to lose by going to Dubai.

But is they really all show up at SA, this is pretty cool
to hell with dubai.
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Old 02-16-2014, 11:19 AM
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I have heard/read nothing about Lea running. He would be better off going Carter and Met Mile.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:24 PM
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to hell with dubai.
please... expand on this lol.

Don't get me wrong. This is awesome they're all running in the big 'Cap. When is the last time this early in the year all the big dogs showed up in the same race?

I mean the routine.... what? At least the last decade? Has been avoid each other until Breeders Cup... unless stud deal comes before November (which it usually does), so then there's an early retirement and the best horses never face off.

I'm just saying for the eventual stud deal awaiting MMM (and WTC for that matter), a big Group 1 win over a Synthetic track for wayyyy more $$$ than SA can offer... just makes no sense why they wouldn't go.

And yeah, I get that the trip saps the horse for months. We probably wouldn't see MMM again until Toga after. But He'd have more than enough time to prep and get fit for a run at the BC after.
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:02 PM
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Does anyone know if Long River is running next Saturday? He is nominated and would be getting 7-9 pounds from the big 3.
Also Governor Charlie, is Baffert running him? He was very impressive stretching out last time.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:28 AM
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BIG CAP LIKELY (PP'S):

Mucho Macho Man
Will Take Charge
Game On Dude
American Blend
Appealing Tale
Blingo
Imperative
Majestic Harbor
Rousing Sermon
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Santa Anita Handicap:

1 Will Take Charge Saez 123 (2-1) L
2 Mucho Macho Man Stevens G L 124 (9-5) L
3 Blingo Gryder A T 117 (8-1) L
4 Imperative Desormeaux K J 114 (12-1) L
5 Rousing Sermon Bejarano R 114 (12-1) L
6 American Blend Talamo J 114 (20-1) L
7 Game On Dude Smith M E 122 (5-2) L
8 Hear the Ghost Rosario J 114 (20-1) L
With all due respect to Jon White, I cannot see Game on Dude at 5-2 in this spot. I realize he'll still take a lot of money based on his reputation and overall record at Santa Anita, but isn't 5-1 more realistic? He just got drilled by Blingo for god sakes. And now add Will Take Charge and Mucho Macho Man to the mix.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:22 PM
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With all due respect to Jon White, I cannot see Game on Dude at 5-2 in this spot. I realize he'll still take a lot of money based on his reputation and overall record at Santa Anita, but isn't 5-1 more realistic? He just got drilled by Blingo for god sakes. And now add Will Take Charge and Mucho Macho Man to the mix.
I'll be shocked if he is as high as 5-1.

I think his odds will be closer to Will Take Charge's than a lot of people think with Mucho Macho Man the favorite.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:00 AM
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Why baffert didnt put Shakin it up in the Big Cap? He won the Malibu and the Strub and the Big Cap is the finale in the Strub Series
He has great closing speed and could have been in the mix late.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:00 AM
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Why baffert didnt put Shakin it up in the Big Cap? He won the Malibu and the Strub and the Big Cap is the finale in the Strub Series
He has great closing speed and could have been in the mix late.
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5th (2:00) San Felipe S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Home Run Kitten Quinonez A 118 L
2 Unstoppable Colby Saez L 118 L
3 Rprettyboyfloyd Nakatani C S 118 L
4 California Chrome Espinoza V 118 L
5 Sawyer's Hill Garcia M 118 L
6 Bayern Stevens G L 118 L
7 Kristo Rosario J 118 L
8 Schoolofhardrocks Talamo J 118 FTL
9 Midnight Hawk Smith M E 120 L
10 Recanted Gutierrez Mario 118 L



6th (2:30) China Doll S.

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Anniversary Kitty Nakatani C S 117 L
2 Loan Savant Gutierrez Mario 117 L
3 Sushi Empire Espinoza V 122 L
4 Soresca (IRE) SutherlandKruse C 117 L
5 Screen Goddess Rosario J 117 L
6 Tiz Kissable Baze T C 117 L
7 Nashoba's Gold Talamo J 117 L
8 Diversy Harbor Stevens G L 117 L
9 Uzziel Blanc B 117 L
10 Sheza Smoke Show Saez L 117 L
11 On the Backstreets Bejarano R 117 L
12 Savings Account Smith M E 117 L
13 Full Ransom Desormeaux K J 122 L



7th (3:00) San Carlos S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Sahara Sky Rosario J 120 L
2 Clubhouse Ride Baze T C 120 L
3 Zeewat Nakatani C S 118 L
4 Big Macher Saez L 118 L
5 Cyclometer Talamo J 118 L
6 Wild Dude Bejarano R 123 L
7 Ready for More Garcia M 118 L
8 Let's Get Crackin Delgadillo A 118 L
9 Midnight Transfer Espinoza V 118 L
10 Shakin It Up Smith M E 123 L



8th (3:30) Frank E. Kilroe Mile S. (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $350,000

1 Lochte Bocachica O 123 L
2 Regally Ready Smith M E 118 L
3 Optimizer Saez L 118 L
4 Suggestive Boy (ARG) Talamo J 118 L
5 Za Approval Rosario J 118 L
6 Winning Prize (ARG) Nakatani C S 118 L
7 Horizontalyspeakin Maldonado E 118 L
8 Tom's Tribute Stevens G L 118 L
9 Silentio Bejarano R 118 L
10 Lakerville Desormeaux K J 118 L



9th (4:00) Santa Anita H. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Will Take Charge Saez (2-1) L 123
2 Mucho Macho Man Stevens G L (9-5) 124 L
3 Blingo Gryder A T (8-1) 117 L
4 Imperative Desormeaux K J (12-1) 114 L
5 Rousing Sermon Bejarano R 114 (12-1) L
6 American Blend Talamo J 114 (20-1) L
7 Game On Dude Smith M E 122 (5-2) L
8 Hear the Ghost Rosario J 114 (20-1) L
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:10 PM
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With all due respect to Jon White, I cannot see Game on Dude at 5-2 in this spot. I realize he'll still take a lot of money based on his reputation and overall record at Santa Anita, but isn't 5-1 more realistic? He just got drilled by Blingo for god sakes. And now add Will Take Charge and Mucho Macho Man to the mix.
If you listen to Jon White on Steve's show, he would rather have the odds lower, because he does not want to be embarrassed, if he makes a horses odds too high and it gets bet down and wins!! Mind Boggling IMO!!

Also I find it a disservice that he and Santa Anita wait so long to post morning line odds, because if you want to prints PP's out early, the horses numbers are not listed, only post position.
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RPRettyboyFloyd was entered in a MSW as well over the weekend... good grief Denise, let the horse graduate before throwing him in with the big dogs.
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RPRettyboyFloyd was entered in a MSW as well over the weekend... good grief Denise, let the horse graduate before throwing him in with the big dogs.
No way he wins that MSW on Friday. Tough group.
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Bayern supposedly scratching out of the San Felipe Saturday with a bruised inside quarter according to Bob Ike.
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