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Old 06-26-2014, 03:27 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/27/us...t-88.html?_r=0

An authentic statesman. The GOP could sure use a few like him these days.
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:38 PM
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An authentic statesman. The GOP could sure use a few like him these days.
That's for damn sure! RIP Mr. Baker
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:51 AM
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That makes two Watergate-era heroes who died. Howard Baker, who famously asked "what did the President know and when did he know it," and Johnnie Walters, the IRS Commissioner who refused to go along with Nixon's efforts to target his enemies.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...issioner-.html
Two Republicans who stood up for the rule of law.

Where are the Democrats willing to stand up for it under the current Administration?
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:13 AM
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That makes two Watergate-era heroes who died. Howard Baker, who famously asked "what did the President know and when did he know it," and Johnnie Walters, the IRS Commissioner who refused to go along with Nixon's efforts to target his enemies.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...issioner-.html
Two Republicans who stood up for the rule of law.

Where are the Democrats willing to stand up for it under the current Administration?
You're comparing Nixon/Watergate to the Obama administration?? Seriously?? OMG One is a Criminal act, cover up and impeachment..the other is a difference in politics and a hatred of Liberals
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:30 AM
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You're comparing Nixon/Watergate to the Obama administration?? Seriously?? OMG One is a Criminal act, cover up and impeachment..the other is a difference in politics and a hatred of Liberals
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:58 AM
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ditto to mclem.

now, i'm not particularly happy with how things have gone since obama took over-but what rules of law are we talking about, old dog?
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:04 PM
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You're comparing Nixon/Watergate to the Obama administration?? Seriously?? OMG One is a Criminal act, cover up and impeachment..the other is a difference in politics and a hatred of Liberals
Obama vs. Nixon: Top Constitutional Experts: Obama Is Worse than Nixon

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/...han-nixon.html
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Obama vs. Nixon: Top Constitutional Experts: Obama Is Worse than Nixon

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/...han-nixon.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1...r-Satan-Really


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Old 06-27-2014, 03:39 PM
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Why limit the comparison to Watergate?


It isn’t only members of the right who have drawn comparisons between Obama and Nixon.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3278303.html
and this from a Constitutional law professor who has supported Obama
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...rgate/2019443/
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/law-profe...-wanted-to-be/

The chief differences being that Americans have seemingly accepted the abuse of rights under an Obama Administration, whereas the outcry against abuses under Nixon were (rightly) decried by the public, spurred on by a more free and potent press. Where are the press now? They seem largely to be happy to report whatever is spoon fed them by the Administration, and the evasive responses to their softball questions are accepted and regurgitated to the public. Are they happily complicit to a fellow Democrat, fearful of a vengeful phone tap or email monitoring, or just uninquisitive? None are good. Imagine for a moment that under a Republican Administration the IRS, led by and defended by IRS personnel who aren’t just registered Republicans, but consistent Republican donors, goes to considerable lengths to suppress liberal-oriented nonprofit organizations. Investigations are launched and the chief (Republican) IRS fixture proclaims his innocence and promptly . . . takes the Fifth. Democrats want to know more and subpoena his emails for the relevant period. The IRS (Republicans) responds that the emails must be reviewed prior to their release, but some several months later reports “ooops” THEY’RE NOT HERE AFTER ALL. His hard drive crashed. Backups? No, sorry. We cancelled the contract with the independent backup service. Never mind that we were required by law to notify federal archivists in the event of such a crash. Oops, we forgot to do that, all but eliminating the archivists’ chances of recovering them. Imagine further that then six of his staffers lost all of their emails from that same time period, too. Imagine just for fun that the Republican press secretary said don’t worry, this was just the scheme of two rogue IRS agents in Cincy, and the Republican President said that “not even a smidgen of corruption” occurred. If this had occurred, cries of “Special Presecutor” would abound throughout the Democratic Party, and the “elite” media – the NY Times, WaPo, ABC, CBS, NBC – would all be fixated on it, obsessed with it. I mean, it would be almost as intense as their coverage with a freaking lane closure on a bridge. Instead it’s like this

(especially the TV box in the lower right corner)

This Administration constantly displays indifference, if not contempt for the rule of law. Look at the selective enforcement/implementation of laws regarding immigration, drugs, and its own signature Obamacare. Do rank and file Democrat voters care? It’s tough to tell, if they do. Democrats in the House and Senate appear not to. Indeed, they are happy to be complicit. Remember all those Democrats telling reporters that they were eager to "fix" Obamacare? I wonder when their proposals will come forth.

Jay Carney said, of the Obama-Nixon comparison, check your history. Okay, let's.
http://rare.us/story/check-your-hist...nt-than-obama/
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