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Old 02-21-2015, 08:20 PM
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Stewards rulings as per the chart:

R4: THE STEWARDS CONDUCTED AN INQUIRY AND CLAIMS OF FOUL WERE LODGED AGAINST HOUSE RULES FROM THE RIDER AND TRAINER OF 'SHEER DRAMA CONCERNING THE STEADYING OF HER AT THE EIGHTH POLE AND AFTER REVIEWING THE FILMS THE STEWARDS CONCLUDED THAT THE OUTCOME WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALTERED AND MADE NO CHANGE

R11: THE RIDER OF ITSAKNOCKOUT LODGED AN OBJECTION AGAINST UPSTART CONCERNING THE STEADYING OF HIS MOUNT AT THE SIXTEENTH POLE AND AFTER REVIEWING THE FILMS THE STEWARDS CONCLUDED UPSTART HAD CONTINUED TO DRIFT OUT CAUSING ITSAKNOCKOUT TO BE CARRIED OUT AND STEADIED AND DISQUALIFIED UPSTART FROM FIRST AND PLACED HIM SECOND

R12: THE STEWARDS CONDUCTED AN INQUIRY CONCERNING THE BUMPING BETWEEN DREAMING OF GOLD AND DANISH DYNAFORMER IN MID-STRETCH AND AFTER REVIEWING THE FILMS CONCLUDED THAT IT WAS A MUTUAL EXCHANGE AND MADE NO CHANGE

No consistency, and the ruling of the race 12 completely baffles me
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Old 02-21-2015, 09:44 PM
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In dirt racing, horses go much faster early and decelerate sharply late.

Trouble early (out of the gate, and into and through the first quarter mile) is far more significant to a horses overall performance than trouble late (stretch-run) which comes while they're decelerating.

However, in regard to inquires and objections, trouble late is taken far more seriously. Most disqualifications happen in the stretch-run when horses are tiring, and their jockeys are resorting to race-riding tactics like brushing or herding.

Another unique thing about inquiries in horse racing, is that they run counter to officiating in most team sports. In sports like football, hockey, and perhaps even basketball -- players are allowed to get away with more in the late stages of a game. The idea being 'put the whistles away and let them play. No one paid to see the officials decide the outcome of games'

Personally, there's no consistency at all when you rule Race 11 a 'DQ' and Race 12 a 'no change'

In both instances, the horse who finished first came outward and initiated contact to try and gain an advantage.

The shame about Upstart's race was that It'saknockout was clearly not going to get by him.
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Old 02-21-2015, 11:46 PM
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Those were two of the most ridiculous back-to-back rulings you will ever see. The explanations say nothing. It's basically "Upstart was DQ'ed because he was DQ'ed" and calling what happened in the 12th a "mutual exchange" is laughable.

It's a shame, because that was a great card Gulfstream put on today, mostly overshadowed (in my eyes) by the incompetence of the stewards.
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Old 02-22-2015, 03:15 AM
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It's one of the many frustrations in a game that needs no more frustrations. I was singled to the 7 for a Pick 4 and Pick 5 score so I may be a bit biased but I think not. Yes, the 7 came in a bit in the last but the 8 appeared to come out multiple times and much more drastically, causing significant contact. In fact, if you watch the replay, it appears that as the 8 drifts out and makes significant contact with the 7 and as that happens the 7 switches leads, signifying that the bumping was drastic enough to alter the 7's chances to win or lose. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe I'm not. But it's f*ing ridiculous when compared to the previous race. I actually thought the race deserved more of a DQ than the FOY. The explanation makes it even worse. The contact was nowhere near mutual. The 8 clearly came out more than the 7 came in. Clearly. This is an embarrassment to the game and such a fantastic card deserved a better ending!
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Old 02-22-2015, 08:28 AM
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The one word I think that explains it best is 'Pletcher'

Upstart was 'Pletcherized' known on the left coast as 'Baffertized'
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:27 AM
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Objectively, disagreed with both calls.

Subjectively, would like to thank the stewards for a $196 double to finish the day.

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