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Old 04-28-2015, 11:05 AM
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Name one horse at relative low odds that you will not be including in any of your multi-race exotics or the top rung of trifecta/superfecta wagers.

For me, it's simple.




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Old 04-28-2015, 11:44 AM
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For me, it's never "simple," -- it takes a lot of effort for me to talk myself off a horse. But given what I have seen and read so far, it's Mubtaahij.
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For me, it's never "simple," -- it takes a lot of effort for me to talk myself off a horse. But given what I have seen and read so far, it's Mubtaahij.
Me too.
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Far Right will be the lowest of the eight that have no chance to be on any ticket regardless of post position.
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:11 PM
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Far Right will be the lowest of the eight that have no chance to be on any ticket regardless of post position.
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Far right and Carp diem will not be on my tickets. Horse with zero % shot to finish in top 4 would be Stanford
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Name one horse at relative low odds that you will not be including in any of your multi-race exotics or the top rung of trifecta/superfecta wagers.

For me, it's simple.




Carpe Diem
that's who i would exclude.
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I'm not saying they have no chance. It's just who I'm trying to beat when narrowing down tickets.
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Old 04-28-2015, 09:25 PM
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Why is everyone dumping carpe diem? Horse has been a pillar of consistency..im not crazy about pletchers derby stats but horse hasn't done anything wrong thus far.
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Why is everyone dumping carpe diem? Horse has been a pillar of consistency..im not crazy about pletchers derby stats but horse hasn't done anything against anyone worth racing thus far.
FTFY

Oh, and he is slow. But so is International Star...though realistically, neither has really had to do much thus far. IS can at least close into reasonable fractions. CD needs to be close against real horses and has kind of shown his hand already. I'd expect (regardless of the hype) both to be 15-1 ish, and IS is the play there IMO
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I think the pace scenario is going to be pretty interesting. I don't picture wicked fractions and a pace meltdown..think your going to need to be in the first or second tier at worst.
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Oh, and he is slow. But so is International Star...though realistically, neither has really had to do much thus far. IS can at least close into reasonable fractions. CD needs to be close against real horses and has kind of shown his hand already. I'd expect (regardless of the hype) both to be 15-1 ish, and IS is the play there IMO
You expect Carpe Diem to be 15-1???
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:05 PM
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You expect Carpe Diem to be 15-1???
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