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Old 05-09-2015, 08:33 AM
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Default Espinoza fined for excessive whipping of Stellar Wind

during Santa Anita Oaks...

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...n-stellar-wind
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Old 05-09-2015, 09:34 AM
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Hey.. whatever works right?
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Old 05-09-2015, 03:32 PM
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So what happened to this so called "Horse friendly" whip that Jocks were supposed to be using? I guess it is supposed to bend more or something???
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Old 05-09-2015, 04:40 PM
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Hey.. whatever works right?
Correct, if it is actually working and a goal is attainable.
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Old 05-10-2015, 06:36 AM
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Correct, if it is actually working and a goal is attainable.
What's the goal? To alienate as many people as possible until there are just 100 people left in the country who like to watch and bet on horse races in which riders beat the s&!t out of their mounts?

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Old 05-10-2015, 10:02 AM
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What's the goal? To alienate as many people as possible until there are just 100 people left in the country who like to watch and bet on horse races in which riders beat the s&!t out of their mounts?

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Old 05-10-2015, 10:18 AM
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If use of a crop makes one squeamish, I have to wonder how you are a racing fan at all. Consider the life of a racehorse and all it endures. Its not exactly a natural life for them.
No one wishes to see a horse treated cruelly at all.
I don't recall seeing anyone remark about victors use of his stick that race til word came out he had been fined.
Perhaps racing should name a maximum number of times a jock can whip? That way they'd know 20 was OK, 21 isnt.
And then if a horse loses by a nostril we will have complaints about the arbitrary number of times a jock can use his crop. We will be told that the new crops are padded, and there's no reason to limit, because they aren't that bad...
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Old 05-10-2015, 02:09 PM
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What's the goal? To alienate as many people as possible until there are just 100 people left in the country who like to watch and bet on horse races in which riders beat the s&!t out of their mounts?

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The trainer of the horse said he didn't see any mark on the horse. Also, I can't imagine if Espinoza did hurt Stellar Wind at Santa Anita, that he would have ridden her back in the Kentucky Oaks. Do you?
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Old 05-10-2015, 02:49 PM
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The trainer of the horse said he didn't see any mark on the horse. Also, I can't imagine if Espinoza did hurt Stellar Wind at Santa Anita, that he would have ridden her back in the Kentucky Oaks. Do you?
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Old 05-11-2015, 08:50 AM
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The trainer of the horse said he didn't see any mark on the horse. Also, I can't imagine if Espinoza did hurt Stellar Wind at Santa Anita, that he would have ridden her back in the Kentucky Oaks. Do you?
Exactly Jay.. This is the amazingly bizarre element of the whole situation. Who's going to know better how she came back than Sadler?
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Great conversation with The Mig on Stevie's show today.
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Old 05-12-2015, 04:16 PM
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Great conversation with The Mig on Stevie's show today.
Agree. I always value his perspective.
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