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05-29-2006, 04:22 PM
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gomez...
... damn it....nice ride ..choke artist.. the 2 seemed to be choked down in the str ..no need to beef...after all i liked the nine and didnt play it..my bad...
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05-29-2006, 04:35 PM
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Hooves, been watching races for a living as an agent for quite some time now. I know some think I maye be extreme in my comments and I know many are just superficial watchers who wont grasp what i am saying, but I will step up your game Hooves!!! I didn't use Bestowed but I will always watch a race dispassionately no matter who I bet or who I know in the race. Fact is Bestowed was probably best. Broke sharp and had great position into the turn. Instead of letting him run under a loose rein and letting the eventual winner clear off gradually and just holding his ground and stinging the winner a bit, Garrett overreacted and stood up and took a chokehold on him causing the horse to resent it, toss his head, and give up a lotta ground in just a few strides. Im grateful he sucks as I am alive in pik-4's but in reality you bet the right horse Hooves. Unlike you guys, even if I win I will still tell you that you had teh right horse, and in this case you did. Gomez screwed you. Dickinson(trainer) now has 4 wins so far this year and its Memorial Day!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some master trainer genius he is huh?
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05-29-2006, 04:45 PM
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05-29-2006, 08:30 PM
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Mig took that race to school, stole it on the front end and its good to see the guy who suffered from another untimely injury have more wins at the meet than the guy who got to benefit from it.
People think that gomez is some kind of jockey god. Give him another agent than ron a and hes nowhere. Gomez and Kent wont do any good at saratoga.
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05-29-2006, 08:33 PM
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Gomez has won me many a race. Bet against him at your own risk. The only thing worse than blaming a jockey is blaming a horse. You know who you are betting on when you put the money down.
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05-29-2006, 08:34 PM
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And what happens once JRV returns and Garrett finds himsef getting on two or three a day? Maybe he's truly better than this but it's going to be interesting to see what happens in a couple weeks if he's still riding poorly. Room for one more at the Jersey shore?
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05-29-2006, 08:42 PM
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If he is so bad how did he get the best job in the business while JV is gone. Other than Prado, Castellano and Santos he has the highest win percentage. Pretty good for a guy "going to the shore".
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05-30-2006, 08:27 AM
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By the way, Gomez doesn't suck
Gomez is one of the best riders alive. He really doesn't suck. But hes very inconsistent and frustrating at times. Jerry Bailey was asked about Edgar Prado as a jockey after the Derby and he said that Edgar was so very consistent and always showed up to do the job, day in and day out. He then said that some top jocks looked awesome at times and at other times looked average. I think he was elduing to Gomez with that statement.
I simply found all the comaprisons and allegations lately that Gomez was at Johnny V's level to be completely insane. Johnny is at a level that few riders have ever reached. The wya he has ridden the last three years has been absolutely incredible. Hes just so perfect so much of the time that his skill was beginning to be taken for granted. He makes everything look so damn easy that people just didnt think he was doing anything special and was just on good horses. The thing is that top riders are supposed to do that. Every ride doesnt have to be a daredevil, overthought process. You dont need to save every inch of ground and knife through a hole when you are on the best horse. You just do your homework with the DRF, position the horse properly, and stay out of its way. At some point Gomez will realize this. His agent is the best agent who ever hustled a jock's book. Hes just about the sharpest guy at the racetrack. I'm sure with Anderson's guidance that eventually he will become more consistent. Hes diplayed he has the incredible strength and physical ability and timing. He also posesses daredevil guts. Now hes just gotta start studying pp's better, knowing his own horse and the horses he is riding against, and realize that when you get to the level he has gotten to in terms of talent of his mounts, that he doesnt have to be the show by himself.
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05-30-2006, 04:32 PM
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well mike i think % does matter. after all you did state the word consistency and a riders% would indicate that wouldnt it? i think velasquez is a good jock i wont dispute that but i dont think hes great. there are a host of other guys i would ride over him or edgar anyday of the week. i think another former based MD rider like edgar himself that would ride edgar right outta his jock is ramon dominguez. edgar has all the physical skills on a horse but when i watch him ride sometimes i really wonder if this guy knows how to read a racing form or not
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05-30-2006, 04:34 PM
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Velasquez is like Frankel, you have to win the big one. Without the Derby you can never be a true great.
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05-30-2006, 04:46 PM
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The Derby is one race, not the whole year or a career. Thats just nonsense.
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05-30-2006, 04:47 PM
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agreed you not only have to have the horse but a tremendous amount of racing luck to win the derby
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05-30-2006, 04:53 PM
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05-30-2006, 04:48 PM
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Bailey by his own admission couldnt handle the rigors of everyday riding last year, so he cut his workload and only took high class allowance and stakes races with some Maidens and high priced claimers as well for top clients. He didn't ride a full slate, so his % would naturally be higher just riding chosen mounts. Any jock could do that and attain a high %. The guys who ride day in and day out all year long and win the money are the guys who get the awards, period.
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05-30-2006, 04:54 PM
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im not trying to BS anybody mike. im well aware bailey had less mounts and didnt ride as much on a daily basis. LOL what do you think bailey's % woulda been if he woulda rode first call for pletcher? and no not any jock could do that. in the races he rode in do you think he was on tons the best hors everytime, you think the horses he ran against were mules compared to his? bailey didnt decline near the end like other recently retired greats like day, mccaron etc etc
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05-30-2006, 04:57 PM
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Look there was a year or two when Jerry won teh eclipse on the basis of how much money he won riding a couple big horses where other guys had a better overall year. Thats how it works and you know it. The guy who wins the money gets the crown. Its a standard that is used in the industry. Jerry is an announcer now, and I have no idea why he is brought up by you in every discussion about jockeys who ride NOW!!!!!! Gomez just sent patrons running to the bathroom to vomit with his 1-21 skid this weekend at Belmont.
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