Will we have two women running for President?

somerfrost · #1 10-20-2006, 04:43 PM

Hillary Clinton is debating her Republican challenger in New York tonight...seeing as how she has over a 30 point lead in the polls, it would seem the only reasonable explanation would be a "trial run"...I continue to believe she will be the Democratic candidate. Condy Rice is the question...will the republicans counter with her?

ArlJim78 · #2 10-20-2006, 07:04 PM

Hillary will run for prez but will not get the nomination.

Conde will not run. At most she might be a wild card selection as a VP candidate to strengthen the ticket.

somerfrost · #3 10-20-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Hillary will run for prez but will not get the nomination.

Conde will not run. At most she might be a wild card selection as a VP candidate to strengthen the ticket.

Ok, you have inside info or is this a guess?

ArlJim78 · #4 10-20-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Ok, you have inside info or is this a guess?

No inside info, just a good track record on this type of thing.

somerfrost · #5 10-20-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

No inside info, just a good track record on this type of thing.

I really don't see anyone beating Hillary for the nomination...she has a good record as Senator and really has put a lot of the negatives behind her. Condy is really tough to guage....a lot of support, a loyal member of the Bush team (not a positive in the general election but in the primary...), I think she will test the waters and a lot may depend on Rudy...I would think he'd be the only really serious challenge to her as he's quite liberal for a Republican, of course the religious right will have some say (unfortunately)!

ArlJim78 · #6 10-20-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

I really don't see anyone beating Hillary for the nomination...she has a good record as Senator and really has put a lot of the negatives behind her. Condy is really tough to guage....a lot of support, a loyal member of the Bush team (not a positive in the general election but in the primary...), I think she will test the waters and a lot may depend on Rudy...I would think he'd be the only really serious challenge to her as he's quite liberal for a Republican, of course the religious right will have some say (unfortunately)!

I think Hillary will be something like Howard Dean, strong early but then fading rapidly under closer scrutiny. Bottom line in my view is that she cannot win the general election, once this is fully realized, party support and donations will jump ship and seek out someone else.

Conde I do not see as possessing the desire to be a politician, the fire in the belly so to speak. Rudy could likely be one of the 8-10 who throw their hat in the ring and go through the debating rounds. I do not see him as any threat for the nomination although he could wind up in the top 3-4.

Its early to get real serious about handicapping this thing, but if I had to guess on the Republican side I see it between McCain and Romney. After the election the picture should come into focus a little better.

somerfrost · #7 10-20-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

If Conde were to run against Hillary, she wins in a landslide............

Actually I think she can beat anyting the Dems put on the ticket.

Right now I think Gingrich may get the Rep. Nom. but it's very early.

Newt???? You are kidding right??

#8 10-20-2006, 05:31 PM

haha, Newt
Condo is black and a woman
we've never had either and bang, both at the same time?
I don't see that happening
blacks don't vote, and women like men in a position of authority
nobody would ever come out and say that publicly, but it's true

GenuineRisk · #9 10-20-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

haha, Newt
Condo is black and a woman
we've never had either and bang, both at the same time?
I don't see that happening
blacks don't vote, and women like men in a position of authority
nobody would ever come out and say that publicly, but it's true

And the winner of the Gross Generalization Award for Friday, October 20th goes to...

#10 10-20-2006, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

And the winner of the Gross Generalization Award for Friday, October 20th goes to...

in voting you deal in generalizations basically GR...blacks as a majority do not go out and vote even for a black candidate, and women tend to vote for men as a whole, they basically put Clinton in twice on the women vote alone
all facts!

somerfrost · #11 10-20-2006, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

in voting you deal in generalizations basically GR...blacks as a majority do not go out and vote even for a black candidate, and women tend to vote for men as a whole, they basically put Clinton in twice on the women vote alone
all facts!

A few flaws in that logic...Black folk generally see no real reason to vote for President, two old and rich white guys...not much difference! Remember the year Jesse actually mounted a serious campaign? Turnout was quite different!
You nominate a black woman and I guarantee a significantly larger inner city turnout! Now if she goes against Hillary...it will be interesting to see the breakdown there among inner city and poor voters! I think it would be wonderful if those two squared off...the issue of a woman President would be moot...quite an interesting situation!