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Old 10-29-2006, 05:58 PM
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i view this as a regular card..and dont pay any more attention than i would a daily playable card elsewere...i really wont take a hard look till pps are drawn.. dont get me wrong its racings greatest day but until you know who is in and out ect..its alot of mental anguish in my opinion..thoughts..like watching the works..it just doesnt do anything for me ..its ultra hype time and i dont buy into it....grounded makes for better deisions.in imo......,,what do you guys do..at bc time..
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:06 PM
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I go with my strong suit... pedigree. At the top level, the usual pedigree angles dont really come into play since most, if not all the horses are already proven in their respective genres.

With that being the case, I look for conditions to change such as rain in the forcast, and then I look at female family.

The theory is that class in a racehorse comes from the female family. I think its pretty all-encompassing which makes it seem less effective than it is, but the cream does seem to rise to the top more times than not.

So, I break down the class of the families behind each runner and then go from there. It worked well for me in the Distaff, J.Fillies, and F&M Turf last year.

I then break down the fields by the way their pedigrees tie in. I especially look for the RF factor in pedigrees and always pay a little more attention to those runners who carry it. Last year Stevie Wonderboy was one I was touting on the RF alone, and he did the theory right.

Everyone has a way to do things, and this one is mine. Pedigree Handicapper to a fault.
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:11 PM
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i view this as a regular card..and dont pay any more attention than i would a daily playable card elsewere...i really wont take a hard look till pps are drawn.. dont get me wrong its racings greatest day but until you know who is in and out ect..its alot of mental anguish in my opinion..thoughts..like watching the works..it just doesnt do anything for me ..its ultra hype time and i dont buy into it....grounded makes for better deisions.in imo......,,what do you guys do..at bc time..
you took the words out of my mouth matt...I've glanced at the pp's but can't think about making a final opinion until I know where they have drawn etc...Plus with two of "my" babies in I refuse to back off them even if they won't win, so that's a good way to get my head (or at least my heart) handed to me.
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:16 PM
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I've looked at the pp's, but won't make any concrete decisions until the night before. I'm really trying to learn about the whole pedigree deal, but I'm definitely not confident enough in my abilities to go off of that alone.
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:28 PM
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I haven't bothered looking at the PP's. I'll start cracking on Wednesday.
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:29 PM
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Im with everyone else... I wont really look at the field until the night before. I want to know exactly who will be in the gate. Otherwise, you're wasting a lot of time on thin air.
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:44 PM
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I have only played 1 BC, but I did very well last year. Pedigree is definitely my weak spot in this sport, but it won't be probably in the next couple of years. I'm really going to try to start learning a lot about that. Pedigrees are really nice when looking at yearlings, two year olds, and first time starters.

However, I am always going to be a movement and performance person. Although I appreciate horses with nice pedigrees such as Bernardini and Empire Maker, it has been my impression that pedigree doesn't mean crap sometimes when applying it to ability on the track. I like to watch how they work and move.

As for looking at the PPs, I will probably start looking over them on Wednesday night, although I have been watching replays of some of the horses in these races even though I have seen them all before. I'm afraid that there is something that I may have missed.
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Old 10-29-2006, 08:50 PM
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Just curious - how do you know so much about horse racing? You do not sound like a 19 - 21 year old college student.
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