John Kerry WHY?!

[Seattleallstar]

Im just reading up on my main candidate for president, and it looks like its over. For a guy who thinks alot about what he says he really killed his aspirations for president with his comments.

Mr Al Gore please run for president, America needs you

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

Im just reading up on my main candidate for president, and it looks like its over. For a guy who thinks alot about what he says he really killed his aspirations for president with his comments.

Mr Al Gore please run for president, America needs you

He was being honest. He could have said it in a less offensive way. If you make bad grades in high school and score poorly on the SAT's and/or ACT's, there is a high probability you will be recruited for the armed services and sent to Iraq.

It's really good advice. The war is bull****.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

He was being honest. He could have said it in a less offensive way. If you make bad grades in high school and score poorly on the SAT's and/or ACT's, there is a high probability you will be recruited for the armed services and sent to Iraq.

It's really good advice. The war is bull****.

well I hope someone from the Dem's spin it as such. It certainly didnt help Kerry, I wish I knew he was in Seattle. I needed to talk to him

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

well I hope someone from the Dem's spin it as such. It certainly didnt help Kerry, I wish I knew he was in Seattle. I needed to talk to him

I gotta hand it to the guy, to lose in 2004 and have the courage to face the public two years later speaks volumes about his character. Or he simply has no shame.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

He was being honest. He could have said it in a less offensive way. If you make bad grades in high school and score poorly on the SAT's and/or ACT's, there is a high probability you will be recruited for the armed services and sent to Iraq.

It's really good advice. The war is bull****.

That is complete and utter bull****. I too think the war is bull****, but making bad grades or not doing well on your SAT's does not mean you will end up in Iraq. You are no more likely to be recruited than the valedictorian.

What he was being honest about is that he is an elitist snob, and thinks the people that serve in our military are all hicks and idiots.

Please explain to me how being recruited for the armed services means you are going to Iraq? Last I checked there is no draft and if you are recruited that doesn't mean you have sign up.

In a country will record low unemployment rates, the military recruits are not all poor people looking for work.

Not everyone can be born into a wealthy family like Kerry, and then marry rich widows.

Kerry is a complete and utter loser and a liar and a phoney. The fact that I voted for him makes me want to throw up sometimes.

HE CAN'T STAND NOT BEING THE CENTER OF ATTENTION, and he is willing to destroy his own party just so he can get in the news cycle.

The guy can't just admit it, he is never going to be presiden. NEVER.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Revolution

That is complete and utter bull****. I too think the war is bull****, but making bad grades or not doing well on your SAT's does not mean you will end up in Iraq. You are no more likely to be recruited than the valedictorian.

What he was being honest about is that he is an elitist snob, and thinks the people that serve in our military are all hicks and idiots.

Please explain to me how being recruited for the armed services means you are going to Iraq? Last I checked there is no draft and if you are recruited that doesn't mean you have sign up.

In a country will record low unemployment rates, the military recruits are not all poor people looking for work.

Not everyone can be born into a wealthy family like Kerry, and then marry rich widows.

Kerry is a complete and utter loser and a liar and a phoney. The fact that I voted for him makes me want to throw up sometimes.

HE CAN'T STAND NOT BEING THE CENTER OF ATTENTION, and he is willing to destroy his own party just so he can get in the news cycle.

The guy can't just admit it, he is never going to be presiden. NEVER.

John Kerry is a hero, and not an elitist. His background in his formative years will attest to that fact despite that yes he was in fact rich and privilaged

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

John Kerry is a hero, and not an elitist. His background in his formative years will attest to that fact despite that yes he was in fact rich and privilaged

You are completely clueless if you think he is a hero. He is nothing more than an opportunist.

WHO BRINGS A CAMERA CREW WITH HIM TO GO AND FIGHT A WAR?

WHO GOES OUT AND FINDS THE RICHEST WIDOW IN WASHINGTON?

WHO IS SO STUPID HE COULDN'T EVEN BEAT GEORGE BUSH?

WHO IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LITTLE PAWN FOR THE CORRUPT SENATOR KENNEDY THAT KILLED A GIRL AND RAN OFF?

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Revolution

You are completely clueless if you think he is a hero. He is nothing more than an opportunist.

WHO BRINGS A CAMERA CREW WITH HIM TO GO AND FIGHT A WAR?

WHO GOES OUT AND FINDS THE RICHEST WIDOW IN WASHINGTON?

WHO IS SO STUPID HE COULDN'T EVEN BEAT GEORGE BUSH?

WHO IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LITTLE PAWN FOR THE CORRUPT SENATOR KENNEDY THAT KILLED A GIRL AND RAN OFF?

you forgot he dated Jackie's sister only to meet President Kennedy

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Revolution

You are completely clueless if you think he is a hero. He is nothing more than an opportunist.

WHO BRINGS A CAMERA CREW WITH HIM TO GO AND FIGHT A WAR?

WHO GOES OUT AND FINDS THE RICHEST WIDOW IN WASHINGTON?

WHO IS SO STUPID HE COULDN'T EVEN BEAT GEORGE BUSH?

WHO IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LITTLE PAWN FOR THE CORRUPT SENATOR KENNEDY THAT KILLED A GIRL AND RAN OFF?

Oh my god, you're right! How DARE a Democrat be rich? How DARE HE? Only Republicans are allowed to be rich! Democrats who are rich are evil hypocrites! Republicans who are rich are God's chosen! How dare Kerry! How dare he??????

Um, actually, McCain married a rich woman, too, and he wasn't even divorced when he hooked up with his second wife. At least Kerry wasn't committing adultery (since the Republicans seem pretty obsessed with what other people do in the bedroom). McCain's second wife's money funded his early campaigns.

Though, sadly, I have no snappy comeback for how he could have lost to Bush, other than maybe Americans are very susceptible to, "Elect a Democrat and the terrorists will KILL you," which seems to be the Republicans' campaign slogan for the past six years. Kerry was a rotten candidate; I agree with you, Rev. But I voted for him, and had I to do it again, I'd vote for him over Bush again. Heck, I'd vote for a Fresca over Bush.

And I still say those who think he was talking about the soldiers are wrong, wrong, wrong. It was a Bush dig. But it's just as well he's hiding out for the rest of the campaign. We need divided government and we need it badly- this single party crap has seriously screwed up our long-term stability (ballooning deficit, anyone?). The Dems don't need any more of Kerry trying out his stand-up act before Tuesday...

Originally Posted by Revolution

That is complete and utter bull****. I too think the war is bull****, but making bad grades or not doing well on your SAT's does not mean you will end up in Iraq. You are no more likely to be recruited than the valedictorian.

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Your chances of joining the military increase when you don't have the grades and/or test scores to get an academic scholarship. Why? Because the armed forces help pay for college. It's their strongest selling point. And now that the requirements to join the military have been lowered, due in part to the smart and/or rich kids knowing the consequences of joining, even you can join.

What Kerry said is far less offensive than Dubya's fear mongering about the big bad terrorists. It's unfortunate he gave the dullard something to talk about other than terra.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Your chances of joining the military increase when you don't have the grades and/or test scores to get an academic scholarship. Why? Because the armed forces help pay for college. It's their strongest selling point. And now that the requirements to join the military have been lowered, due in part to the smart and/or rich kids knowing the consequences of joining, even you can join.

What Kerry said is far less offensive than Dubya's fear mongering about the big bad terrorists. It's unfortunate he gave the dullard something to talk about other than terra.

This is actually not correct. The average income of the families of people joining the military over the last 5 years has increased. Poor people have other options due to low unemployment. Actually, there are quite a few middle class and even wealthy people that are buying the lies of George Bush and joining the military. 9-11 brought a ton of people into the military that would never have joined. Even poor guys like a millionaire NFL player, Pat Tillman joined.

Originally Posted by Revolution

This is actually not correct. The average income of the families of people joining the military over the last 5 years has increased. Poor people have other options due to low unemployment. Actually, there are quite a few middle class and even wealthy people that are buying the lies of George Bush and joining the military. 9-11 brought a ton of people into the military that would never have joined. Even poor guys like a millionaire NFL player, Pat Tillman joined.

Where are your sources? Of course the average income is going to increase if even a small number of rich kids enlist. That doesn't mean the majority of men and women in the military don't come from poor families.

[Nascar1966]

Two years I retired after serving for 20 years in the military for this great country of ours. I have no regrets about serving 20 years in it. I know get a pretty good retirement check, I still work, im not worried about it. I don't know if alot of the people realize other benefits that I am presently enjoying. My insurance for myself, wife, and son is presently under $500.00 for the entire year. A visit to the doctor's office is under $15.00, prescriptions are either $9.00 or $3.00 depending upon it being a generic brand or name brand.

One of the main reasons why I joined the military was that I wanted to do some traveling. I made my 1st cruise at the crisp young age of 19. How many 19 year olds can say they have been to Spain, France, Italy, Crete, and England. Where I grew up there used to be steel mills, now they are either malls or just empty land. People are right about the military paying for outside education, my associates that I received while active cost me $2500, the military paid for the rest. I totally agree with Revolution's post. I grew up in a middle class family, during my senior year I made my mind up that I wasn't going to live off of my dad's money, unlike some of the spoiled brats that are still living with thier parents. I joined the military in December of my senior and I had the peace mind knowing that my future was set for the next four years. Also while in the miltary I received extra money for housing and food, and all medical care was free for my wife and son as long as they went on base. I was also lucky that where I was stationed at had a free five hole practice golf course on the base. It might not of been much to look at, but it was free and it entertained my family on numerous occasions.

[repent]

LMAO,

john kerry is full of sh*t and so are the morons who try to defend him now.

and here is a newsflash to all you b*tchy liberals.
nobody gives 2 sh*ts what you think about the war or anything else for that matter.

You morons LOST the election.
you can not present the American people with even a half way credible candidate so dont b*tch about decisions that President George W Bush makes.
he won the election and earned the right to make all the decisions(good or bad) that he wants.
if he wants us to invade the freaking whaling stations at the bottom of the world with miliatery force, then thats what is going to happen.
deal with it losers.


Repent

Originally Posted by repent

LMAO,

john kerry is full of sh*t and so are the morons who try to defend him now.

and here is a newsflash to all you b*tchy liberals.
nobody gives 2 sh*ts what you think about the war or anything else for that matter.

You morons LOST the election.
you can not present the American people with even a half way credible candidate so dont b*tch about decisions that President George W Bush makes.
he won the election and earned the right to make all the decisions(good or bad) that he wants.
if he wants us to invade the freaking whaling stations at the bottom of the world with miliatery force, then thats what is going to happen.
deal with it losers.


Repent

I hope you're being sarcastic or you're at least severely intoxicated.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I hope you're being sarcastic or you're at least severely intoxicated.

your new to the group arent you...lol

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

your new to the group arent you...lol

Now that's more like the old Repent...I was worried that he had mellowed!

[repent]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Now that's more like the old Repent...I was worried that he had mellowed!

no way.
no mellowing my friend.

Im more polite most of the time b/c I recognize that I am a guest at Kasept's board.
thats different than being a guest at a liberal corporation's board like ESPN.

out of respect for the host of this forum,
i try not to directly insult other members or curse at them.
but I dont have to show respect towards liberal ideology.



Repent

[repent]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I hope you're being sarcastic or you're at least severely intoxicated.

no sarcasm and I dont drink.

this is the spoils of victory dude.
we won the election and can make all the f*cked up decisions that the current administration desires.

dont think it does not go both ways.
when you guys won with Clinton you got to give all the 16YO crack whores with 4 kids all the money and food stamps they ever desired.
hell, they were probably living better than most hard working Americans.
8 years of that sh*t. 8 years of my parents' tax dollars going to drugged out junkies just b/c its the mission of the democratic party to help the social parasites of the world.

spike lee says George Bush does not care about poor people.
I say why should he?
they did not put him in the white house.
and hes not able to run again so why care about them now?


Repent

Originally Posted by repent

no sarcasm and I dont drink.

this is the spoils of victory dude.
we won the election and can make all the f*cked up decisions that the current administration desires.

dont think it does not go both ways.
when you guys won with Clinton you got to give all the 16YO crack whores with 4 kids all the money and food stamps they ever desired.
hell, they were probably living better than most hard working Americans.
8 years of that sh*t. 8 years of my parents' tax dollars going to drugged out junkies just b/c its the mission of the democratic party to help the social parasites of the world.

spike lee says George Bush does not care about poor people.
I say why should he?
they did not put him in the white house.
and hes not able to run again so why care about them now?


Repent

I'm not a democrat.