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Old 05-21-2018, 04:40 PM
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Default here is what i think,start calling me a dummy

justify wins the Belmont by 6 to 10 lengths

reasoning? ok here is my light bulb moment

in the derby there was nothing in there to push him all the way around

you had kinda cheap speed go maybe 5 furlongs and then spit the bit
justify took over and always had a 2 length lead at all times after that

in the Preakness there was no cheap speed there was a solid horse who took lustify to the limit in good magic nothing cheap about him

my thinking is you need a horse that can have speed throughout the whole race good magic did that and only got beat a length[ a credit to the horse he is
if anyone had that kind of horse ,the Preakness was the race to put him in, not the Belmont I think you will get a couple of cheap speed horses that will take justify ,who will lye 3rd to the 5 furlong pole and justify just cruises by there isn't a horse out there that can sustain what good magic did in Preakness this will not be close
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Old 05-21-2018, 05:49 PM
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I think he wins easy because he’s in unreal condition + more talented than these, or he finishes off the board because he’s way over the top. I don’t see any in-between, but the race is 3 weeks away.

O’Neill’s horse seemed to like Belmont just fine...
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:13 PM
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Default Good point, Ontheoutside

He looks the part. I think that is the key. He looks that good. He has looked like a superhoss from the beginning. He is intelligent. The way he goes he will be impossible to beat in the Belmont. He will eat up those big wide turns and win by double digits.
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:53 PM
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I think he wins easy because he’s in unreal condition + more talented than these, or he finishes off the board because he’s way over the top. I don’t see any in-between, but the race is 3 weeks away.

O’Neill’s horse seemed to like Belmont just fine...
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:54 AM
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Justify finished a rapidly diminishing half-length in front of two previously unremarkable 3-yr-olds, and now he's unbeatable in the Belmont? I don't think so.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:12 AM
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Watch for one Ortiz brother to go on a suicide pace mission to setup the other... Smith has to avoid falling for it...
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:42 AM
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Watch for one Ortiz brother to go on a suicide pace mission to setup the other... Smith has to avoid falling for it...
The NY shuffle tactic....works pretty often
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Old 05-22-2018, 03:57 PM
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Justify finished a rapidly diminishing half-length in front of two previously unremarkable 3-yr-olds, and now he's unbeatable in the Belmont? I don't think so.
I agree with Dunbar. I'm looking to bet against Justify in the Belmont. He will be way overbet and he is coming off only an average performance. Even horses who look like world beaters winning the Ky Derby and Preakness usually get beat in the Belmont. Here we have a horse coming off an unimpressive win. I think there is a good chance that the hard campaign he has had in a relatively short period of time is starting to catch up with him. We will know more when we see him train over the next couple of weeks. I will be looking for any minor change in his appearance. We will see if his energy level galloping is as good as it has been the last couple of months. If he looks as good as ever, then I won't be in such a big hurry to bet against him. But if I see even a minor change in his appearance, I will be eager to bet against him.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:25 PM
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Default rupert?

I must ask what was unimpressive about it? he was stalked by the champion 2 yr old for a mile and 2/16th unimpressive? really?
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:59 PM
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Justify finished a rapidly diminishing half-length in front of two previously unremarkable 3-yr-olds, and now he's unbeatable in the Belmont? I don't think so.
This feels silly.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:27 PM
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One of those tough ones. Definitely would love to see another triple crown winner. If he is home free down the stretch I will be cheering for him.

For wagering I am hoping he finishes 3rd or worse. I am considering a box exacta with all but Him.
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