Pletcher

[ArlJim78]

No winners today but I saw that his starters earned over 2 million from all the minor placings.

Did anyone catch when they annouced that he brought 45 people to work the BC for him? What an operation?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

No winners today but I saw that his starters earned over 2 million from all the minor placings.

Did anyone catch when they annouced that he brought 45 people to work the BC for him? What an operation?

I noticed those items as well. He was averaging about $25,000 per start (every horse, every start) this year. A good day, even if no wins. But you know he's got to be pissed.

[randallscott35]

I thought he had a great day. Its hard to win these races. He did great today.

must have taken notes from the Nick Zito playbook. Remember when nick had so many horses in the derby a couple years ago and didn't hit the board ? Perhaps those trainers with only a couple entered have an advantage in being able to concentrate their effort . Graham motion had 2 runners, Filmmaker and Better TAlk Now in the Turf and they both were prepped to the minute getting place. Its unbelievable that Todd had 45 assistants and 17 entered. Reminds me of Frankel, they win all the big races except the BC.

[The Bid]

He doesnt enter to run second. Just shows you how tough it is to win a Grade 1 race. People take it for granted because Todd does it so often, but anytime you lead a horses of that calibur over to the paddock anyone can win.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

He doesnt enter to run second. Just shows you how tough it is to win a Grade 1 race. People take it for granted because Todd does it so often, but anytime you lead a horses of that calibur over to the paddock anyone can win.

Its harder to win Gr 1 Breeders cup races because they aren't 5/6 horse fields.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I thought he had a great day. Its hard to win these races. He did great today.

I hate to pick on you randall but are you a bills fan? Wait a While was nowhere, Flower Alley was terrible again, Lawyer Ron was awful, Fleet Indian broke down, Spun Sugar is still running, Pool Land stunk, Go deputy was awful, Quiet Royal is still running, English Channel probably blew an eclipse award by hanging, Magna Graduate ran poorly, Scat Daddy showed zero.

His 2 year old fillies ran ok and Circular Quay ran good, Honey rider ran well and Friendly Island ran good.

He may have blown the trainers Eclipse award with this performance but you call it great? I dont get it.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I hate to pick on you randall but are you a bills fan? Wait a While was nowhere, Flower Alley was terrible again, Lawyer Ron was awful, Fleet Indian broke down, Spun Sugar is still running, Pool Land stunk, Go deputy was awful, Quiet Royal is still running, English Channel probably blew an eclipse award by hanging, Magna Graduate ran poorly, Scat Daddy showed zero.

His 2 year old fillies ran ok and Circular Quay ran good, Honey rider ran well and Friendly Island ran good.

He may have blown the trainers Eclipse award with this performance but you call it great? I dont get it.

that was a hang????? I must not know a f*cking thing about racing then

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GPK

that was a hang????? I must not know a f*cking thing about racing then

What exactly would you call it? Just missed? He had the lead at the top of the stretch and finished a well beaten third.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I hate to pick on you randall but are you a bills fan? Wait a While was nowhere, Flower Alley was terrible again, Lawyer Ron was awful, Fleet Indian broke down, Spun Sugar is still running, Pool Land stunk, Go deputy was awful, Quiet Royal is still running, English Channel probably blew an eclipse award by hanging, Magna Graduate ran poorly, Scat Daddy showed zero.

Yeah, but aside from that he did great. LOL.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Yeah, but aside from that he did great. LOL.

And I forgot about King of the Roxy's dismal performance too.

[avance2000]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He may have blown the trainers Eclipse award with this performance but you call it great? I dont get it.

what? are you being serious?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by avance2000

what? are you being serious?

I agree with you here. If Pletcher didn't start another horse all year, he would still win the Eclipse. He's at about $26 million. The next closest guy is at around $10 million. I think it's safe to say that Pletcher has the eclispe locked up.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I hate to pick on you randall but are you a bills fan? Wait a While was nowhere, Flower Alley was terrible again, Lawyer Ron was awful, Fleet Indian broke down, Spun Sugar is still running, Pool Land stunk, Go deputy was awful, Quiet Royal is still running, English Channel probably blew an eclipse award by hanging, Magna Graduate ran poorly, Scat Daddy showed zero.

His 2 year old fillies ran ok and Circular Quay ran good, Honey rider ran well and Friendly Island ran good.

He may have blown the trainers Eclipse award with this performance but you call it great? I dont get it.

You know, I personally was happy he got blanked, maybe this will remedy that silly notion that all these owners seem to be having that only Pletcher is capable of winning, maybe now the good horses will be spread among several good trainers who prove they are just as capable with a good horse, I can guarantee you Holthus is feeling a little vindicated, Lawyer Ron never ran a worse race, Pletcher didn't reinvent the wheel, he's just as infallible as any of them with a better Vet.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

You know, I personally was happy he got blanked, maybe this will remedy that silly notion that all these owners seem to be having that only Pletcher is capable of winning, maybe now the good horses will be spread among several good trainers who prove they are just as capable with a good horse, I can guarantee you Holthus is feeling a little vindicated, Lawyer Ron never ran a worse race, Pletcher didn't reinvent the wheel, he's just as infallible as any of them with a better Vet.

Not meant as any knock on Pletcher but you make a lot of good points. He's a VERY good trainer but so are a lot of guys. And I'm sure he would agree.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

I noticed those items as well. He was averaging about $25,000 per start (every horse, every start) this year. A good day, even if no wins. But you know he's got to be pissed.

A good day? $25000 per starter is nice if there weren't entry fees and travel costs associated.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

A good day? $25000 per starter is nice if there weren't entry fees and travel costs associated.

Did each starter have to pay $50k to start? $2,160,200 isnt a bad day. He got prob 10% so he got $216,020 today. Not a bad day at all if you ask me. But then again, with 17 starters I am sure he was hoping to have at least one winner.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Did each starter have to pay $50k to start? $2,160,200 isnt a bad day. He got prob 10% so he got $216,020 today. Not a bad day at all if you ask me. But then again, with 17 starters I am sure he was hoping to have at least one winner.

Sure Pletcher made his % but it cost over $1million in entry fees to start those horses.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

No winners today but I saw that his starters earned over 2 million from all the minor placings.

Did anyone catch when they annouced that he brought 45 people to work the BC for him? What an operation?

he averaged a check a race. gotta suck not to get a win, esp with fleet indian...but he can afford plenty of tissue to dry his eyes.