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Old 05-23-2019, 12:05 AM
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Default Chad Brown wow 😳

and I always thought help on the backside were on salary per day or week or hoss. $1.6 million is a lot of bread to owe the help.
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Old 05-23-2019, 01:29 AM
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and I always thought help on the backside were on salary per day or week or hoss. $1.6 million is a lot of bread to owe the help.
Maybe they were entiitled to a % of the winnings. Even if there is more to the story, not a good look.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:01 AM
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Is that not a ton of bread to owe workers who are making less than a grand a week ? To be that much money awarded in the judgement, it has to be a lot of workers that got screwed a bunch of money, over an extended period.

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Old 05-23-2019, 03:57 AM
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It will be interesting to see if he was doing anything different from most other trainers with big operations. We will see if he is the only one nailed for this, or if a bunch more of these cases are coming against other trainers.

For anyone that hasn't seen the article, here it is:
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/t...or-violations/
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Old 05-23-2019, 05:18 AM
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Nearly every barn in NY is dealing with this in varying degrees.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:46 AM
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Some of the comments after that article are laugh out loud funny. I always thought Alabama Stakes was the dumbest guy on the internet. I was clearly wrong.
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:33 AM
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Nearly every barn in NY is dealing with this in varying degrees.
Administrative Judges aren't IMPARTIAL.

Nobody save a few people very close to the case know the facts.

People employed in the industry realize it's not an 8 hour a day job, no different than an UBER driver expecting to make an hourly wage. The difference is racing lobby has not lobbied well enough to set the standards.

Not sure how a guy can have the most successful operation in NY and not have happy (for the most part) high-quality help that feels good about their compensation? Maybe but unlikely.

Smells like a setup.

Smart people like Brown obviously can make mistakes too, and when you are growing attention to detail other than winning clients and races can wain, but we will see?
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:31 PM
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Nearly every barn in NY is dealing with this in varying degrees.
Certainly not surprising, because this isn't just an issue for the racing industry. Dept. of Labor's changes to what constitutes a position that can qualify for salary, what constitutes management, etc. have made it no easier on employers.

The agenda seems clear. Someone at NLRB and Department of Labor believes there is a rampant problem with workers not being paid overtime when it is due.

I'm not sure they have data to support that -- but that certainly is driving a lot of this.
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