Is it just me or is Godolphin winning everything

[Seattleallstar]

it seems like the past month they have won alot of major races here in the US, and even a few big ones in Europe. Looks like they are finally doing something right, and managing their talent much better.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

it seems like the past month they have won alot of major races here in the US, and even a few big ones in Europe. Looks like they are finally doing something right, and managing their talent much better.

See Joel Cunningham's article on the Darley stable that he put up on this site. I completely agree with you.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

See Joel Cunningham's article on the Darley stable that he put up on this site. I completely agree with you.

They are on a roll like I have never seen. They have the money, talent and desire to be the best and it is starting to show.

the thing is they didn't win the derby
the Preakness & Belmont are nice
but they want derby
and they haven't got derby
thus they are failures in their own eyes

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

the thing is they didn't win the derby
the Preakness & Belmont are nice
but they want derby
and they haven't got derby
thus they are failures in their own eyes

don't they have the green monkey ?? for 2007 KD

Originally Posted by Secretariat

don't they have the green monkey ?? for 2007 KD

There is a reason that they don't have The Green Monkey and I'll just leave it at that....honestly, they should own that one as well

Well they won two legs of the tri crown, the Woody Stephens and the race yesterday by Dubai Escapade was nice as well.
But they won't have any champions in the Us this year.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Well they won two legs of the tri crown, the Woody Stephens and the race yesterday by Dubai Escapade was nice as well.
But they won't have any champions in the Us this year.

Oracle, you dont think Dubai Escapade will be a champion?

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Oracle, you dont think Dubai Escapade will be a champion?

Champion of what? They don't have a "filly or mare sprinter" division. I highly doubt that she can best colts and horses, and I doubt she will stretch out, Onnagan Mccool is gonna be tough to beat there.
So what champion are we looking at them owning?

Originally Posted by oracle80

Champion of what? They don't have a "filly or mare sprinter" division. I highly doubt that she can best colts and horses, and I doubt she will stretch out, Onnagan Mccool is gonna be tough to beat there.
So what champion are we looking at them owning?

I think she can stretch out. Onnagan McCool is becoming one of my favorite horses. I dont think she can get the boys either. I have a feeling they may run her in the filly and mare turf or perhaps the distaff. I think she has a shot in the distaff more so than the turf. If she wins the distaff, then she might be champ.

[Kasept]

Don't forget about the 2 ALW winners Saturday.. Afrashad and Safsoof..

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Champion of what? They don't have a "filly or mare sprinter" division. I highly doubt that she can best colts and horses, and I doubt she will stretch out, Onnagan Mccool is gonna be tough to beat there.
So what champion are we looking at them owning?

Invasor as older horse champ
Bernardini as 3 yr old and probably horse of the year

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

Invasor as older horse champ
Bernardini as 3 yr old and probably horse of the year

Ouch,
Jinxy cat just destroyed the Royal family's hopes and dreams. Up on hearing the news that the guy who jinxed jazil into the winners circle on saturday had just declared that Bernandini would be HOY, the royal family immediately sent word to their agents to immediately begin searching for a good 3Yo for sale. LOL!!! Well, thats the end of Bernandini. The Seattle curse has been laid upon him.

Originally Posted by oracle80

But they won't have any champions in the Us this year.

This is a very bold statement....if Bernardini wins the Travers and BC Classic, then he'll be Horse of the Year IMO...also, Shawanda is close to her return at Ascot and if she comes for the BC F&M Turf in November, she'll win that race and could also be a champion...Plus, you have Songster and henny Hughes who are both legit BC Sprint candidates...I would disagree against the predicting that they'll have no 2006 champions in early June...the second half of the year is in front of us...

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

This is a very bold statement....if Bernardini wins the Travers and BC Classic, then he'll be Horse of the Year IMO...also, Shawanda is close to her return at Ascot and if she comes for the BC F&M Turf in November, she'll win that race and could also be a champion...Plus, you have Songster and henny Hughes who are both legit BC Sprint candidates...I would disagree against the predicting that they'll have no 2006 champions in early June...the second half of the year is in front of us...

Joel with all due respect he won a Preakness that was marred by Barbaro breaking down and Bro deerek being compromised by getting hurt in the gate.
Sweet NS wandered like a drunken sailor down the lane. Flower Alley hasn't even cranked up yet but soon will. To predict that a three year old will best his elders at this point is not something I'm willing to do.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel with all due respect he won a Preakness that was marred by Barbaro breaking down and Bro deerek being compromised by getting hurt in the gate.
Sweet NS wandered like a drunken sailor down the lane. Flower Alley hasn't even cranked up yet but soon will. To predict that a three year old will best his elders at this point is not something I'm willing to do.

Bernardini is the most talented horse in the country...period...I firmly believe that...he beats Barbaro in the Preakness if that colt doesn't break down...firmly believe that.....we'll see at year's end.

My prediction of Bernardini being the best horse is bold, but I also thought he'd win the Preakness and I was awarded by hitting the EX, TRI and SUPER...your prediction is bold, too, which is fine..I'm just saying that you are throwing a blanket over a significant amount of talented horse flesh if you are saying halfway through the year that they won't have an Eclipse horse....Have you even seen any of their babies run?...No, cause they won't run until Saratoga. So, what if they have a BC Juvenile or Juvenile Fillies winner that hasn't debuted yet?..Certainly not out of the question considering they spent hundreds of millions of dollars at auction on the crop of 2-year-olds they are about to unveil.....shaky prediction, but we'll see..

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Bernardini is the most talented horse in the country...period...I firmly believe that...he beats Barbaro in the Preakness if that colt doesn't break down...firmly believe that.....we'll see at year's end.

My prediction of Bernardini being the best horse is bold, but I also thought he'd win the Preakness and I was awarded by hitting the EX, TRI and SUPER...your prediction is bold, too, which is fine..I'm just saying that you are throwing a blanket over a significant amount of talented horse flesh if you are saying halfway through the year that they won't have an Eclipse horse....Have you even seen any of their babies run?...No, cause they won't run until Saratoga. So, what if they have a BC Juvenile or Juvenile Fillies winner that hasn't debuted yet?..Certainly not out of the question considering they spent hundreds of millions of dollars at auction on the crop of 2-year-olds they are about to unveil.....shaky prediction, but we'll see..

Shaky?
Well Joel I live in saratoga. And pletcher has more talent in this barn up here in saratoga than the sheikh has throughout the world. YOu think Scat daddy and Minefield are great? Wait til Saratoga. Hes got babies breaking watches every morning, and many of them. Todd's 2Yo's will sweep every grade one in the Northeast this year, every one. You ain't seen anything yet. Wait until you see the Pletcher show this summer. Its a gonna be a smash hit.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel with all due respect he won a Preakness that was marred by Barbaro breaking down and Bro deerek being compromised by getting hurt in the gate.
Sweet NS wandered like a drunken sailor down the lane. Flower Alley hasn't even cranked up yet but soon will. To predict that a three year old will best his elders at this point is not something I'm willing to do.

I have to ask what made you change your tune on Bernardini; right after the Preakness, you had no hesitation in claiming Bernardini's performance to be phenomenal and that he might very well have beaten Barbaro. Now you turn around 180 degrees and his race wasn't that good?

I'm glad that racing writers have been able to put aside their feelings and look at Bernardini's performance in the cold hard light of reality - it was brilliant. There is still so much more racing left but Bernardini is championship quality, of that I have no doubt. He's got the chance now to prove it on the track, as it should be.

Originally Posted by Betsy

I have to ask what made you change your tune on Bernardini; right after the Preakness, you had no hesitation in claiming Bernardini's performance to be phenomenal and that he might very well have beaten Barbaro. Now you turn around 180 degrees and his race wasn't that good?

I'm glad that racing writers have been able to put aside their feelings and look at Bernardini's performance in the cold hard light of reality - it was brilliant. There is still so much more racing left but Bernardini is championship quality, of that I have no doubt. He's got the chance now to prove it on the track, as it should be.

It was a great race. But to be beat elders in the BCC is another story. I personally think Flower Alley will slay all comers when he returns and I think the late comeback is by design. I think he wins the Whitney, the JCGC, and the BCC. His talent is immense, and his BCC as a 3yo against older truly unappreciated.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by oracle80

But they won't have any champions in the Us this year.

I am going to make a bold statement and say that Bernardini may just be the best dirt horse in the world, and if he continues to run races in the form he showed in the Preakness, no one is going to beat him...not even America's top older horses. The only American horse that stood a chance against him was our lovely Barbaro. Now, the only horse that may stand against him if he keeps running in his current form is Darley's other horse Discreet Cat. SNS and Brother Derek can't beat Bernardini. I feel that he really have a weak older horse division here this year. Flower Alley is going to have to show me something to give me some hope.

The Darley stable still hasn't unleashed one of my personal favorites, Henny Hughes.