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11-19-2006, 02:11 PM
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Draft?
I certainly don't know what to make of this. Rangel and Graham seem interesting enough. Personally, I don't think there's much of a chance but with the challenges that face our great nation, this might be a way.
I really don't know, so I'm putting it out to DTer's to weigh in on. Thanks for your thoughts. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...s/4346646.html 
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11-19-2006, 02:15 PM
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11-19-2006, 02:43 PM
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as the article said, this isn't the first time rangel has tried this. and i think this time will be just as successful as the last.
having seen in the last few months that both enlistments and re-enlistments exceed the set quotas, i think they'll have a hard time convincing many that the draft is necessary. i know some countries, israel for one, have mandatory service in their military. i'm not so sure that would fly here.
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11-19-2006, 04:58 PM
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I sure hope you're right. Last I read, there was a third tour on the way for a unit. I need to search to find the link. DTS
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11-19-2006, 05:05 PM
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11-19-2006, 07:13 PM
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Just from a political point of view, I think it is political suicide for someone to support the draft. If Rangel had his way and the draft was brought back, I think that would kill the democrats. If one party is considered to be responsible for bringing back the draft, I think that party would suffer big-time at the polls. I think the vast majority of American are opposed to a draft.
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11-20-2006, 12:46 AM
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Rangel's voice sounds like an old jersey woman who's smoked herself retarded.
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11-20-2006, 06:05 PM
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No Jersey shots please. People in other states smoke far more....Although I work with a woman who sounds eerily like Charlie.
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11-20-2006, 06:15 AM
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bush is watching his former cronies melt away in the darkness, while the republicans left standing point fingers at him. looks like the guy who left so many holding the bag has his turn now.
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Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. Abraham Lincoln
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11-20-2006, 11:22 AM
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Most career military officers and NCO's do not favor a draft. The position is that most do not want to depend on someone to cover their butts in combat if that someone was drafted and does not really want to be there. Volunteers make superior soldiers to draftees.
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11-20-2006, 11:23 AM
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Well, I support a universal draft in principle...I think EVERYONE should give two years of service to their nation BUT...it has to be universal in the sense that rich folks don't get excluded! If they produce a plan where every single person upon completion of high school or at their 20th birthday (whichever comes first) is called...I support that! But no damn exceptions except for folks on their death beds!!! In a wheelchair...you still serve, blind...you serve, no paying a doctor thousands of dollars to invent some medical reason, no exclusions whatsoever!!! AND...once in the service of your country, you are assigned duty based SOLELY on your abilities...no, "Oh your daddy is CEO of Halliberton, you sit behind this desk while the next guy gets his butt blown off in Iraq!" The idea of service to country is certainly valid...but raising an army of poor folks to die for the ever increasing wealth of OWG's (old white guys) is obscene! If we have leaders who aren't either retarded or in the pocket of special interests (some both...), then 99.9% of this service would be peaceful and constructive!
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11-21-2006, 01:37 AM
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the man has 2 Ivy League degrees. he does know what he is doing. Im tired of reading ppl's critiscms of him. there are some ppl who still question his decision to invade Iraq despite the overwhelming success of the new government there. probably the same ppl who still question whether or not Ghostzapper could really get 10f. Repent
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11-21-2006, 09:45 AM
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Pre-war Iraq would have been just perfect for you. Last edited by SniperSB23 : 11-21-2006 at 09:56 AM.
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11-21-2006, 11:30 AM
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but if you'd like to hide your head under a pillow so the sun doesn't shine too bright thru those rose colored glasses, go for it. i don't care if he has 10 ivy league degrees. that has nothing to do with success or failure regarding foreign policy.
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11-21-2006, 03:49 PM
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When I saw that Rangel was talking about this, I really had no idea that Jefferson, Hoover, and Ike would've also been a part of this thinking.
Sure, a "draft" won't happen. It would be "political suicide". Yet, if you take the time to read it, this article might give some historical context, and also explain some realities that need to be spoken to. http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1121-27.htm
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11-22-2006, 01:02 AM
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99.9% of the ppl on this planet simply are not qualified to make an accurate assessment of his ability to play QB. same goes for your critical analysis of President Bush. you are not a world leader. you dont have the experience in dealing in world matters that President Bush has and I promise you that you would not do a better job of handling the burdens of the world than he has. dont tell Eli Manning how to play QB. dont tell Tony LaRussa how to manage a baseball team. dont tell DWL how to train a racehorse. and you sure as hell dont tell President George W Bush how to be the leader of the most powerful country in the history of time. Repent
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