Norman gets six-month suspension

[smartyalex]

http://www.drf.com/news/article/80983.html

[The Bid]

Now that is really shocking. More so than Mitchell

Wow, I just can't believe it, lol. I'm completely stunned.

[The Bid]

Oracle,

I thought this guy was a straight hay and oats guy.

Originally Posted by The Bid

Oracle,

I thought this guy was a straight hay and oats guy.

Chocolate or vanilla?

[MISTERGEE]

May All These Damn Miracle Working Trainers Join This Guy In The Big House Before They Ruin The Sport Altogether

[packerbacker7964]

Well it looks like my boy will miss the Oaklawn meet. I wonder who train in his name while he's gone? When he broke his neck 2 years ago my friend got to work for him some maybe he'll get a chance again this time.

[The Bid]

Assmussen and Norman are planning a cruise together towards the end of the month. After that they are supposed to go skiing in Switzerland. Have yet to figure out what to do with the other 5 months theyll be spending together.

[repent]

hey can someone in the business tell me how much this actually hurts the trainer.
does Asmussen lose that much money(or clients) b/c his horses are running in the name of Blasi?
and does it really matter from a handicapping perspective.
as I wagerer, i really dont care if it lists Asmussen, Blasi or whoever as the trainer.
i know its an Asmussen horse so thats all that matters.
actually got into an argument with some dude at SAM last weekend b/c he was trying to tell me Blasi was not as good or experienced as Asmussen.
lol, I about fell out of my chair.
am I off the mark here?
thanks



Repent

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by repent

hey can someone in the business tell me how much this actually hurts the trainer.
does Asmussen lose that much money(or clients) b/c his horses are running in the name of Blasi?
and does it really matter from a handicapping perspective.
as I wagerer, i really dont care if it lists Asmussen, Blasi or whoever as the trainer.
i know its an Asmussen horse so thats all that matters.
actually got into an argument with some dude at SAM last weekend b/c he was trying to tell me Blasi was not as good or experienced as Asmussen.
lol, I about fell out of my chair.
am I off the mark here?
thanks



Repent

It costs the trainer a ton of cash when they get a 6 month suspension. They don't get any of the purse money. I always figured that the assistat trainer would secretly give them the money, but they can't do that. If they got caught, they could lose their license. You don't want to mess with a racing board when it comes to these types of things because I have been told that they can check bank records and that type of thing. I don't think the trainer is supposed to have any contact with the barn. The racing board can check phone records and that type of thing.

With regard to your question about whether the suspension will effect the performance of a barn, it can have a big effect. I think it depends alot on how hands on the head trainer is in the first place. If he is very hands on, then it can have a big effect. Sometimes the assitant is as good as the head trainer, but often times he is not.

I think that Asmussen's absence has made a big difference in terms of the performmance of first-time starters. Blasi is only winning at a 9% clip with first-timers. I think Asmussen was at around 20%.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It costs the trainer a ton of cash when they get a 6 month suspension. They don't get any of the purse money. I always figured that the assistat trainer would secretly give them the money, but they can't do that. If they got caught, they could lose their license. You don't want to mess with a racing board when it comes to these types of things because I have been told that they can check bank records and that type of thing. I don't think the trainer is supposed to have any contact with the barn. The racing board can check phone records and that type of thing.

With regard to your question about whether the suspension will effect the performance of a barn, it can have a big effect. I think it depends alot on how hands on the head trainer is in the first place. If he is very hands on, then it can have a big effect. Sometimes the assitant is as good as the head trainer, but often times he is not.

I think that Asmussen's absence has made a big difference in terms of the performmance of first-time starters. Blasi is only winning at a 9% clip with first-timers. I think Asmussen was at around 20%.

Common he can pay Assmusen legaly by saying he did work for him on the side away from the track and cut him a check. Phone records?? Its not aginst policy to talk to someone that is suspended. Lets see he can mow my lawn for 20K a week, everyone sees what I am getting at. Plus how do you think Meche end up on Appealing Zophie??

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It costs the trainer a ton of cash when they get a 6 month suspension. They don't get any of the purse money. I always figured that the assistat trainer would secretly give them the money, but they can't do that. If they got caught, they could lose their license. You don't want to mess with a racing board when it comes to these types of things because I have been told that they can check bank records and that type of thing. I don't think the trainer is supposed to have any contact with the barn. The racing board can check phone records and that type of thing.

With regard to your question about whether the suspension will effect the performance of a barn, it can have a big effect. I think it depends alot on how hands on the head trainer is in the first place. If he is very hands on, then it can have a big effect. Sometimes the assitant is as good as the head trainer, but often times he is not.

I think that Asmussen's absence has made a big difference in terms of the performmance of first-time starters. Blasi is only winning at a 9% clip with first-timers. I think Asmussen was at around 20%.

Anyone that thinks that Assmussen's 6 month suspension has hurt him is dead wrong. He has actually picked up business, Steve is at all the sales, has more time to call clients and develop new ones like Beverly Lewis. If you believe that he has not been in contact with his assistants you are completely kidding yourself. And if you believe that any state racing commission is tracking financial records or phone calls then you are really kidding yourself. Assmussen's assistants train the divisions anyway, the guy can only be in one place at a time.

All I have to say is "About time."