sun king.....

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

well i was very suprised to see this one make a great move for second in the met...where would you guys spot him next...me it would be a turf try at 1.1/16...see if he likes it...

[zippyneedsawin]

I'd keep him on the dirt in races at a mile and under... He's becoming one of the top older sprinters in the country right now.. I don't know if I'd want to experiment with the turf at this point.. but what do I know?

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

well i was very suprised to see this one make a great move for second in the met...where would you guys spot him next...me it would be a turf try at 1.1/16...see if he likes it...

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I'd keep him on the dirt in races at a mile and under... He's becoming one of the top older sprinters in the country right now.. I don't know if I'd want to experiment with the turf at this point.. but what do I know?

Hey if it ain't broke don't try and fix it. They have obviously found his strength. Its one turn races. Now at Belmont thats easy enough. Makes it tricky at Saratoga though. Perhaps the Forego up there.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I'd keep him on the dirt in races at a mile and under... He's becoming one of the top older sprinters in the country right now.. I don't know if I'd want to experiment with the turf at this point.. but what do I know?

he looks to be able to go 1 and 1/8 on the dirt ..but as mike said 1 turn ..

Sun King, the dual qualifier, up for a second in the met mile, surprised me, and i lost my exacta

Originally Posted by Secretariat

Sun King, the dual qualifier, up for a second in the met mile, surprised me, and i lost my exacta

Blocky glad you could make it over.
But Blocky the Met Mile has no dual qualifying system. If you are referring to the outdated Dr Roman system that used to have high success in the Derby, Wilko also fit that mode and he failed to hit the board. Its meaningless voo doo.

[slotdirt]

Any horse that closes like he did at KEE is live. Speaking of closing, when did Sun King turn into a closer anyway? Isn't this the same horse that needed the lead as a 3YO?

[Skip away]

Yes i did, the splits were moderate for Monmouth, I believe he Sun King got the lead and went 23 and change and 47 and change. thats not exactly flying at this speedway. horses routinely go 22 in routes and go on with it. 23 and change here equals 24+ at most major tracks. Doesnt exactly make him a true front runner.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Skip away

Yes i did, the splits were moderate for Monmouth, I believe he Sun King got the lead and went 23 and change and 47 and change. thats not exactly flying at this speedway. horses routinely go 22 in routes and go on with it. 23 and change here equals 24+ at most major tracks. Doesnt exactly make him a true front runner.

I understand what you're saying, BUT, until the last couple of races, Sun King was almost always at or near the lead. This seems to be a total change in tactic, which as you note, would probably make sense since the pace in a race going a mile or less is going to be significantly quicker than the races he was running last year.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I understand what you're saying, BUT, until the last couple of races, Sun King was almost always at or near the lead. This seems to be a total change in tactic, which as you note, would probably make sense since the pace in a race going a mile or less is going to be significantly quicker than the races he was running last year.

he had a full head of steam going the mile..why not longer..at least alittle..

this horse is a dual qualifier, he can run routes, if zito can't get 10f out of him as an older horse, maybe a good trainer can.

[Skip away]

Yes slot, it makes perfect sense and its nice to see this horse as a "relaxer".
I watched him through the early stages of the Met and it looked as if he knew he was now "a closer". He didnt put up any sort of fight with his jockey which shows he has been trained very well this year.

Seems they have found his niche, its obvious this horse cant compete with the big boys going long. He just doesnt have that staying speed like Lava Man or the closing punch like Borrego had going a distance of ground.

[slotdirt]

I'm sure Sun King has taken note of his status as a dual qualifier over a year and a half ago and this very revelation has been what has driven him to two straight solid performances going a mile or less.