Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-24-2007, 09:30 PM
Siena 16 Siena 16 is offline
Sunshine Park
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brooklyn NY
Posts: 88
Default Santa Anita Race 7 DQ

The DQ in today's 7th Race at Santa Anita should cost someone their job. because it sure cost someone a lot of money. Movie Star was never going to go through that hole and if he had horse he would have gotten through clean. If the poor kid S Arias last name was Nakatani he would have had himself $7500 and booted home a 45-1 shot. Nevertheless hard working handicappers would have had another shot at a multimillion dollar carryover.It also took the stewards 9 minutes to make a decision. must of been doing some calculating.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-24-2007, 09:36 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Siena 16
The DQ in today's 7th Race at Santa Anita should cost someone their job. because it sure cost someone a lot of money. Movie Star was never going to go through that hole and if he had horse he would have gotten through clean. If the poor kid S Arias last name was Nakatani he would have had himself $7500 and booted home a 45-1 shot. Nevertheless hard working handicappers would have had another shot at a multimillion dollar carryover.It also took the stewards 9 minutes to make a decision. must of been doing some calculating.
I agree with this.I have no particular reason to care (one way or the other,)but I know the horse would have stayed up with different odds and/or connections.I am o.k. with this being called a foul,but if so,then they need to do it for everybody,and they do not do that.The best horse was the original winner,and when it is obvious who the best horse was,they usually keep that horse up.Not in this case.They are inconsistent.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-24-2007, 09:37 PM
ManilaRose's Avatar
ManilaRose ManilaRose is offline
Bowie
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 208
Default

What made it look even worse was the fact Nakatani got interviewed and said the winner wasn't the horse at fault.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-24-2007, 09:44 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ManilaRose
What made it look even worse was the fact Nakatani got interviewed and said the winner wasn't the horse at fault.
I think he said that the inside horse came out,and was the one he clipped hills with.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-24-2007, 09:49 PM
outofthebox outofthebox is offline
Washington Park
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 878
Default

Im assuming that if they left the winner up there would have been another carryover..Surprised the Stronach yes men didnt tell the stewards to let it go for another big carryover. Imagine how much money would have been created for generally the weakest day of the week handle wise...I myself thought that #7 was was a dead piece when the real racing started at the head of the stretch. But that Nak did a great job of snatching up...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-24-2007, 09:56 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by outofthebox
Im assuming that if they left the winner up there would have been another carryover..Surprised the Stronach yes men didnt tell the stewards to let it go for another big carryover. Imagine how much money would have been created for generally the weakest day of the week handle wise...I myself thought that #7 was was a dead piece when the real racing started at the head of the stretch. But that Nak did a great job of snatching up...
Yes, I wish Nak put that energy into his ride in the 5th(instead of the acting job in the 7th.)P VAL would have given him a 10 out of 10.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-24-2007, 10:02 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default

I will tell you what goes through the minds of these people.The horse Nak rode(who was fairly dead) was a Frankel.In the back of their minds,they don't want to worry about somebody like that btchin' endlessly about that foul,and so they enforce the rules(in this situation.)I guarantee you that if you change the players around,you will get a different decision.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-24-2007, 10:06 PM
outofthebox outofthebox is offline
Washington Park
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 878
Default

I agree mostly with your assesment on that. Specially that Frankel trains for Stronach..And Frankel is a winer, thats for sure.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-24-2007, 10:10 PM
outofthebox outofthebox is offline
Washington Park
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 878
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Yes, I wish Nak put that energy into his ride in the 5th(instead of the acting job in the 7th.)P VAL would have given him a 10 out of 10.
Are you talking about that hand ride down the hill on #2. I really didnt notice it till the head ons, that was absolutely a no trie...I think he gave her a tap just before the wire, then she galloped out by everyone. Surely a prep to stretch out..
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-24-2007, 10:22 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by outofthebox
Are you talking about that hand ride down the hill on #2. I really didnt notice it till the head ons, that was absolutely a no trie...I think he gave her a tap just before the wire, then she galloped out by everyone. Surely a prep to stretch out..
No,I am talking about the ride in the 5th(on Peace Accord.)The one where he is out of position,and as Trevor said "will need room." If you turn the race on half way through,you would think that the horse started from the 1 hole.You should not be stuck down there when you are on the 7 horse.You combine that with Victor riding huge on the 8 horse,and voila you get beat on the best horse.You know,I will give people a similar bad ride to look at,and they can see what happens when the same horse gets the better ride next out.Take a look at Tony Montana's ride last time.Very similar(although even worse.)Today,the horse was given a chance,and you see the result was much better.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-24-2007, 10:33 PM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by outofthebox
Are you talking about that hand ride down the hill on #2. I really didnt notice it till the head ons, that was absolutely a no trie...I think he gave her a tap just before the wire, then she galloped out by everyone. Surely a prep to stretch out..

Alan...Scuds and I were discussing this the other day....Nak's head is nowhere near the track. Looks like he has zero desire to be out there.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.