no love for ravel

alysheba4 · #1 02-06-2007, 10:15 AM

surprised i havent read anything about this horse, i know it was the typical 6 horse field we always see at santa anita but this horse ran about the same as the 4 year olds later in the day (strub stakes) 48 and change i believe..... could be any kind, plus he looked like another quater is right up his alley. i think i might get me some in vegas.....

NTamm1215 · #2 02-06-2007, 10:18 AM

I didn't see the race as it happened but I just watched thre replay and I think it was a very good performance. I think he's going to be everyone's hot Derby horse this week and you will see low future odds on him over the weekend. .

NT

alysheba4 · #3 02-06-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I didn't see the race as it happened but I just watched thre replay and I think it was a very good performance. I think he's going to be everyone's hot Derby horse this week and you will see low future odds on him over the weekend. .

NT

you might be right, i belive bob and john did the same thing in lasts years sham and things havent turned out so well.

zippyneedsawin · #4 02-06-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4

surprised i havent read anything about this horse, i know it was the typical 6 horse field we always see at santa anita but this horse ran about the same as the 4 year olds later in the day (strub stakes) 48 and change i believe..... could be any kind, plus he looked like another quater is right up his alley. i think i might get me some in vegas.....

I think I read somewhere that Ravel got a higher Beyer Speed figure for his win(102) this weekend than NoBiz got (98) for his Holy Bull victory. He's certainly worth keeping an eye on.

Cajungator26 · #5 02-06-2007, 10:22 AM

Is he a hothead like FuPeg was?

alysheba4 · #6 02-06-2007, 10:24 AM

didnt seem to be, he looked like a seasoned pro and basically cruised.....

todko · #7 02-06-2007, 10:25 AM

The HRTV crew is pretty high on Ravel right now -- might be the kiss of death. Wonder what the plans are for him? Looked good for sure but the field was short and weak.

Good time of year as some of the 3 year olds start throwing in strong performances. Interesting races nearly everywhere right now.

ArlJim78 · #8 02-06-2007, 10:35 AM

Ravel deserves to be on Derby watch lists imo. His races have shown a nice progression, he finishes strong, and he runs in a profeesion manner as others have pointed out.

Cajungator26 · #9 02-06-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Ravel deserves to be on Derby watch lists imo. His races have shown a nice progression, he finishes strong, and he runs in a profeesion manner as others have pointed out.

I still like Liquidity better.

Sightseek · #10 02-07-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Is he a hothead like FuPeg was?

Fupeg isn't one of my favorite sires out there, but there is no denying he can get a real fancy looking one:

Ravel:
http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=52899

Time Squared:

http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=52903

Neither seemed particularly naughty in the paddock or post parade (at least during the coverage by HRTV) although TS doesn't seem particularly interested in running either.

Cajungator26 · #11 02-07-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Fupeg isn't one of my favorite sires out there, but there is no denying he can get a real fancy looking one:

Ravel:
http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=52899

Time Squared:

http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=52903

Neither seemed particularly naughty in the paddock or post parade (at least during the coverage by HRTV) although TS doesn't seem particularly interested in running either.

I really don't like FuPeg, but he throws some gorgeous babies.

paisjpq · #12 02-07-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I really don't like FuPeg, but he throws some gorgeous babies.

the ones that I had the pleasure

of working around were .... well ... they were pretty....

ManilaRose · #13 02-06-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4

this horse ran about the same as the 4 year olds later in the day (strub stakes) 48 and change i believe.....

I really liked Ravel's performance because he does seem to have his head screwed on straight and IMO will have no concerns going 1 1/4. I think the time being the same as the Strub says more about the Strub than it does Ravel. I wasn't real impressed with that group.

NTamm1215 · #14 02-06-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ManilaRose

I really liked Ravel's performance because he does seem to have his head screwed on straight and IMO will have no concerns going 1 1/4. I think the time being the same as the Strub says more about the Strub than it does Ravel. I wasn't real impressed with that group.

1:48 and 2/5 is a pretty good time for a mile and a furlong no matter where you're racing. I think the Strub and Sham were both good races.

NT

ManilaRose · #15 02-06-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

1:48 and 2/5 is a pretty good time for a mile and a furlong no matter where you're racing. I think the Strub and Sham were both good races.

NT

I agree that it was a pretty good time and as I stated earlier I like Ravel quite a bit. Although they are older horses, I don't believe comparing it to the Strub is a great measuring stick. I think the horses in the Strub are 2nd level handicap division horses at best.

#16 02-08-2007, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4

surprised i havent read anything about this horse, i know it was the typical 6 horse field we always see at santa anita but this horse ran about the same as the 4 year olds later in the day (strub stakes) 48 and change i believe..... could be any kind, plus he looked like another quater is right up his alley. i think i might get me some in vegas.....

What's not to like? A grandson of Mr Prospector, by an AP Indy mare. Pletcher trained, partly owned by Tabor. Certainly has the profile of a Derby contender. His stride was beautiful.

Not so sure I like the plan of keeping him in Cali, but at least the weather shouldn't hinder his training.

Had a little win play on him in the Sham, so for now he's my Derby horse. I love seeing Mr P in the sire's pedigree for my Derby horses - not that there is any shortage of those types any given year.

#17 02-08-2007, 02:35 PM

Ravel is the breeding cross of two Drysdale runners: Fusaichi Pegasus with an A.P. Indy daughter. So far he reminds me more of Indy than Fupeg. In my world that is very good. I am not on his bandwagon because horses I follow often have bad luck. I am a little superstitious.