some thoughts on poly after running over it

[todko]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I have been there as well when the weather around turfway was horrible. But you have to remember that they have horses that ship in from Louisville, Columbus, Anderson etc etc. The weather up north from Turfway was rather bad (from what I heard). Both of my horses worked on Sunday and the track was absolutely perfect. I am like you in the sense that I want to see what happens when there is a couple of inches of snow covering the track.

Euro,

Only two horses show works on the 21st at TP. Compare that to any other Sunday morning and tell me again how perfect the track was.

Originally Posted by todko

Euro,

Only two horses show works on the 21st at TP. Compare that to any other Sunday morning and tell me again how perfect the track was.

Most people know that the clockers at turfway don't always catch all the works. I know my horse worked but it wasnt captured by the clocker. There were about 15 horses on the track at 6am when my horse worked.

[JJP]

Just more evidence that away from Southern California, where they actually monitor these things, workouts and their alleged times are 99% meaningless.

[The Bid]

They may not catch many, but they catch more than 2.

[hailrazer]

The clockers were all stuck out on those icy roads.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by hailrazer

The clockers were all stuck out on those icy roads.

HAHA!!!

Well there was only one clocker there and he was talking to us the entire time. Turfway is prob one of the worse when it comes to catching works. But my wife was on the backside and she reported back to me.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Why you giving me names of horses that last raced in JAN 2006,and Sept 2005? This mule you ran Saturday night is pretty typical.She won at Arlington for somebody.Then lays up 4 months n' runs 7th by 17 lengths.Then you guys get her(who wouldn't want her then right? duh),and she loses by almost 9 lengths.You run her for the same tag (with Nick Meza,)and she can't compete,Big surprise.Drop to 5k.Then complain about a track surface.All I am saying is how can you tell anything about a track surface when you test it with a pet mule.Doesn't make sense.

again my trainer ran 1 over the poly and won last year, im not complaining about the surface becuase the horse lost the race. i guess you automatically assumed so since everytime you lose a bet you find somebody or something to blame other than yourself. i just think the surface is too fast right now. i extensively complained 2 years ago on the espn board about the arlington surface being way too fast, and unfortunately the following year meaning this year look at all the breakdowns we had here.


as far as the filly goes we didnt claim her or ask for the horse. the owners gave her to us and we ran her for straight 3yo's for 16k first time out here at hawthorne which is tougher than 15 non 3l@turfway, she ran 3rd in that race behind a very nice winner, miss queenie is ultra quick. she was in the right race just didnt handle the surface and maybe the shipping also didnt help since she is kinda nervous. she is so much better tho as opposed to when we first got her. if the owners let us run her in the spot we want to next out i think shell be really tough and no its not for 5k


you act like i have no reason to voice an opinion about a surface or anything i want to, well if thats the case please dont tell me what horses are good and which ones arent till you actually plunk down some of your own money or get involved in the sport in a aspect other than strictly gambling on it

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

you act like i have no reason to voice an opinion about a surface or anything i want to, well if thats the case please dont tell me what horses are good and which ones arent till you actually plunk down some of your own money or get involved in the sport in a aspect other than strictly gambling on it

Amen, playa...

There are gamblers and then there are those who actually take part in the business.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Amen, playa...

There are gamblers and then there are those who actually take part in the business.

I don't get that from what he posted at all.

And, furthermore, calling horseplayers " gamblers " shows a complete lack of understanding of what " horseplayers " actually are. Plus, we ( horseplayers that is ) do " take part in the business ".

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't get that from what he posted at all.

And, furthermore, calling horseplayers " gamblers " shows a complete lack of understanding of what " horseplayers " actually are. Plus, we ( horseplayers that is ) do " take part in the business ".

LOL

Here goes this retarded debate again. We're all pieces to the puzzle. Get over yourselves.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't get that from what he posted at all.

And, furthermore, calling horseplayers " gamblers " shows a complete lack of understanding of what " horseplayers " actually are. Plus, we ( horseplayers that is ) do " take part in the business ".

Who is he to talk down to Playa about his horses? Call yourself a "horseplayer" if you want, Andy, if you'd like to sugarcoat the word "gambler." Of course you take part in the business. Without "horseplayers", there wouldn't be horse racing, but in the same token, without the horse racing, there would be no "horseplayers." Guys that take their part by owning horses (even claimers) are a big part of the business IMO and to talk down to them like that shows a lack of respect.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Amen, playa...

There are gamblers and then there are those who actually take part in the business.

I should add that when I said the above, I meant those that own horses. I wasn't very clear... I apologize.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Here goes this retarded debate again. We're all pieces to the puzzle. Get over yourselves.

howbout you get over yourself

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Who is he to talk down to Playa about his horses? Call yourself a "horseplayer" if you want, Andy, if you'd like to sugarcoat the word "gambler." Of course you take part in the business. Without "horseplayers", there wouldn't be horse racing, but in the same token, without the horse racing, there would be no "horseplayers." Guys that take their part by owning horses (even claimers) are a big part of the business IMO and to talk down to them like that shows a lack of respect.

I never said he had any right to talk down to that poster, or any poster, and I had no problem with Dan's response. It was your's I disagreed with...and I see you have amended your thoughts. Thanks.

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

howbout you get over yourself

How about you cry some more about your horse losing Saturday? You forgot to blame the jet stream.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

How about you cry some more about your horse losing Saturday? You forgot to blame the jet stream.

LMFAO put down the crackpipe and slowly walk away, maybe get your eyes checked as well. im done wasting my time with you in this thread

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

LMFAO put down the crackpipe and slowly walk away, maybe get your eyes checked as well. im done wasting my time with you in this thread

The last time you had a winner at TP was last year right? Yeah...it's the way the surface is playing. No fault in your camp.

Whaaaaaa!!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

.... dont tell me what horses are good and which ones arent till you actually plunk down some of your own money or get involved in the sport in a aspect other than strictly gambling on it

Well,if they could race more often,then I might invest,but until then, it is just a money blender.You already know all about this.That's why I favor the synthetic surfaces.It is the only real hope for owners to realistically be able to invest smartly in the game.Training on dirt will not allow Thoroughbreds to stay sound enough to run enough times a year for owners to make money consistently.Until synthetics are used consistently,standardbreds are a better investment.You want to fill proud about blowin' all the money you have? Great.