Gulfstream Allowance draws Jazil, Corinthian

[SniperSB23]

Gulfstream Park - February 8th, 2007 - Race 7
Estimated Local Post Time: 4:21 PM
Race Type: Allowance Optional Claiming
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Four Year Old and Upward
Purse: $48,000
Distance:One And One Eighth Miles
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name Claiming Price
1 King of Jazz (MB) 5 Gelding 120 Edgar S. Prado $0
2 Corinthian (KY) 4 Colt 120 Javier Castellano $0
3 Letterman's Humor (KY) 5 Horse 120 Eduardo O. Nunez $60,000
4 Juniper Knight (KY) 5 Horse 120 Rosemary B. Homeister, Jr. $0
5 Suave Baron (FL) 4 Gelding 120 Cecilio Penalba $60,000
6 Doc Cheney (KY) 4 Colt 120 Joe Bravo $0
7 Jazil (KY) 4 Colt 120 Fernando Jara $0
8 Too Good (KY) 4 Colt 122 Manoel R. Cruz $0

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Gulfstream Park - February 8th, 2007 - Race 7
Estimated Local Post Time: 4:21 PM
Race Type: Allowance Optional Claiming
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Four Year Old and Upward
Purse: $48,000
Distance:One And One Eighth Miles
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name Claiming Price
1 King of Jazz (MB) 5 Gelding 120 Edgar S. Prado $0
2 Corinthian (KY) 4 Colt 120 Javier Castellano $0
3 Letterman's Humor (KY) 5 Horse 120 Eduardo O. Nunez $60,000
4 Juniper Knight (KY) 5 Horse 120 Rosemary B. Homeister, Jr. $0
5 Suave Baron (FL) 4 Gelding 120 Cecilio Penalba $60,000
6 Doc Cheney (KY) 4 Colt 120 Joe Bravo $0
7 Jazil (KY) 4 Colt 120 Fernando Jara $0
8 Too Good (KY) 4 Colt 122 Manoel R. Cruz $0

Doc Cheney!

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Doc Cheney!

Even I can't see that happening. That horse has had too many easier chances that he failed to produce in.

[cakes44]

Toss 'em both for the $ baby!

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Doc Cheney!

doc cheney was in pretty bad physical shape while running last year, hopefully hes better

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Even I can't see that happening. That horse has had too many easier chances that he failed to produce in.

I was halfway joking, Andy... LOL

I doubt he wins, but I could see him getting up for 2nd or 3rd.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I was halfway joking, Andy... LOL

I doubt he wins, but I could see him getting up for 2nd or 3rd.

I haven't looked at the pps yet. I imagine on a fair track Jazil will be very tough. I have zero confidence in Corinthian but he certainly can win. None of the other names jumped out at me so I don't see why Doc Cheney can't get a piece.

[zippyneedsawin]

This is Jazil's second race off a layoff, correct? Other than breaking from an outside post on the silly track configuration, I like his chances.

[Gander]

Other than breaking from an outside post on the silly track configuration, I like his chances.

I think this is an overused excuse for horses who lose at low odds, SNS is one of them. If a horse is good enough he can win breaking from the outside. It will not hurt Jazil's chances one bit but he may need an excuse if he burns more money.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Gander

Other than breaking from an outside post on the silly track configuration, I like his chances.

I think this is an overused excuse for horses who lose at low odds, SNS is one of them. If a horse is good enough he can win breaking from the outside. It will not hurt Jazil's chances one bit but he may need an excuse if he burns more money.

in an 8 horse field, I don't think it will hurt his chances either... but SNS from the 12 hole had to be a negative... he may not have been good enough to win anyway... but that was really a disadvantage IMO.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Gander

Other than breaking from an outside post on the silly track configuration, I like his chances.

I think this is an overused excuse for horses who lose at low odds, SNS is one of them. If a horse is good enough he can win breaking from the outside. It will not hurt Jazil's chances one bit but he may need an excuse if he burns more money.

While constant excuses become tiresome, the outside in 1 1/8 mile races is a potential liability, though for a closer like Jazil who will likely drop back quickly it is less of a disadvantage. Plus, post seven is a lot different that post 11 or 12.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

While constant excuses become tiresome, the outside in 1 1/8 mile races is a potential liability, though for a closer like Jazil who will likely drop back quickly it is less of a disadvantage. Plus, post seven is a lot different that post 11 or 12.

I couldn't agree more.

[Gander]

I dont think SNS was compromised the slightest bit by his post. Ramon did a great job and he had a shot to win, he even looked like a winner turning for home. Excuses for horses who are overbet are getting old.

Jazil could break from any hole and still be where hes going to be, dead last for the majority of the race.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Gander

I dont think SNS was compromised the slightest bit by his post. Ramon did a great job and he had a shot to win, he even looked like a winner turning for home. Excuses for horses who are overbet are getting old.

Jazil could break from any hole and still be where hes going to be, dead last for the majority of the race.

I completely disagree. While Dominguez did a good job under the circumstances, five or six wide on the first turn is a huge disadvantage, and certainly at least contributed to Sweetnorthernsaint's defeat.

[zippyneedsawin]

I understand what you're saying, but how to you explain the stat that only one horse in the past 3 years has won from the 10 post or farther outside? (not my stat, read it on drf.com) are they all overbet favorites?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

more importantly..panty raid comes back in the 8th.......working well. for the return..this was to be a stakes filly..

[SentToStud]

Gulfstream Park - February 8th, 2007 - Race 7
Estimated Local Post Time: 4:21 PM
Race Type: Allowance Optional Claiming
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Four Year Old and Upward
Purse: $48,000
Distance:One And One Eighth Miles
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name Claiming Price
1 King of Jazz (MB) 5 Gelding 120 Edgar S. Prado $0
2 Corinthian (KY) 4 Colt 120 Javier Castellano $0
3 Letterman's Humor (KY) 5 Horse 120 Eduardo O. Nunez $60,000
4 Juniper Knight (KY) 5 Horse 120 Rosemary B. Homeister, Jr. $0
5 Suave Baron (FL) 4 Gelding 120 Cecilio Penalba $60,000
6 Doc Cheney (KY) 4 Colt 120 Joe Bravo $0
7 Jazil (KY) 4 Colt 120 Fernando Jara $0
8 Too Good (KY) 4 Colt 122 Manoel R. Cruz $0

[todko]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

more importantly..panty raid comes back in the 8th.......working well. for the return..this was to be a stakes filly..

What a great name for a horse. The name alone makes me want to bet on her.

Jazil should crush that field -- if he doesn't then retire him.

[peddler]

Running style combined with GP makes him no cinch. While he should crush the field can easily see him not win. Corinthian does not intrigue me at all and agree Doc Cheney has had too many chances. Prado on King of Jazz possibly? Is he in Nafzger barn now or Zito?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I guess anybody can change their mind(so I won't call it a lie,) but I am pretty sure this trainer said he would never bring Jazil to this track again.Said he just didn't do well (in any way)when brought to Southern Florida.