If I Was An African American.................

[2MinsToPost]

(Disclaimer - If you are an intelligent person you will see my point in this thread. If you are not you will see this as some racisist slam against African Americans. If you see this as some slam, insult, etc, I suggest you pm me with your racial slurs. Otherwise, lets talk intelligently here ok?)

and............................................... ...................

Opened the sports section of todays USA Today and saw 48 out of 50 players were of my skin color. Front page mind you, plastered all over the front page.............................................. ................................

If you are not aware of why these 48 men are on the front page, look into it

and............................................... ...................

Had people like Rev Jackson and Sharpton "speaking" on my behalf..............

and............................................... ......................................

If, if I was African American, given all this "Drama" of the past couple days (see Imus, etc etc) I would be ashamed...........................................

African Americans deserve better then this. As a whole, you have who speaking on your behalf? Sharpton? Jackson? PLEASE! Rappers? Etc etc, IT IS TIME FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND GET someone to speak on their behalf who can REPRESENT! Represent those folks in the south, say Alabama and Georgia bustin tail for pennies on the dollar. Scrappin. How bout their kids in those schools in the south? WHERE IS THE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV JACKSON AND THE
RRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVV SHARPTON when it comes to those black kids in the south of hard workin families who go without in their schools?

NAH, THEY WOULD RATHER FOCUS ON IMUS

[Cajungator26]

Please don't get me started on Rev. Jackson. He's the biggest POS on the planet. As far as I'm concerned, he's one of the reasons racism is still around.

[witchdoctor]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Please don't get me started on Rev. Jackson. He's the biggest POS on the planet. As far as I'm concerned, he's one of the reasons racism is still around.

I guess you haven't read Rev Jackson's new book The Clergy Do More Than Lay People.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Please don't get me started on Rev. Jackson. He's the biggest POS on the planet. As far as I'm concerned, he's one of the reasons racism is still around.

Surely you didn't think before you typed that!!?? Blaming a black man for racism is beyond ridiculous! I haven't been around Jesse since the 60's but he was a good man then, I suspect he still is! It's easy to be critical of any human being...we all make plenty of mistakes but the Jesse I knew, the member of Dr King's inner circle, was passionate and dedicated to the cause of equality and fairness. Maybe I give him too much credit but I think his heart remains in the right place despite his mistakes.
And regarding this topic...no, not racism but rather egotistical I'm afraid..."If I was an African American"...well, you aren't! If I was a bird I could fly! I spent some of the best years of my life in the movement and I learned a lot...but I'm not a black man so I can't speak as one, neither can you!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Surely you didn't think before you typed that!!?? Blaming a black man for racism is beyond ridiculous! I haven't been around Jesse since the 60's but he was a good man then, I suspect he still is! It's easy to be critical of any human being...we all make plenty of mistakes but the Jesse I knew, the member of Dr King's inner circle, was passionate and dedicated to the cause of equality and fairness. Maybe I give him too much credit but I think his heart remains in the right place despite his mistakes.
And regarding this topic...no, not racism but rather egotistical I'm afraid..."If I was an African American"...well, you aren't! If I was a bird I could fly! I spent some of the best years of my life in the movement and I learned a lot...but I'm not a black man so I can't speak as one, neither can you!

Somer, I have PERSONALLY met the man on several occasions and I can ASSURE you, he's a POS. Even Bill Cosby is ashamed of him... I do not appreciate what he's done. Perhaps he should look to MLK for guidance, because he has done NOTHING to help the situation and that is JMO!

By the way, what does color have to do with anything?! In order for racism to be abolished, we must stop looking at eachother by the color of our skin!

[Mortimer]

Is there anyone here who is not a personal friend of JJ?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Is there anyone here who is not a personal friend of JJ?

I'm definitely no friend of him.

[Mortimer]

I am soooo sorry.

Is there anyone who has not met JJ?





What about some of you Hymies out there?

[Grits]

From your post, I get the idea that you feel that members of the black community throughout this nation--in every major inner city, in every ghetto, and in every rat infested, drug riddled, drive-by shot-up slum in the north, east, and west is living in conditions far, far above those of their race who make their homes here in the South.

It sounds as though you believe the black community all reside on farms as tenants working for the white man with their little chil'ren sittin' in a one room school house.

Its not a good thing to single out one region of the nation as though the living conditions here are far worse than that of other areas where poverty exists, as readily.

Step into one of your free clinics in Harlem, in the Bronx, in Chicago, in L.A.

....I am having a difficult time here, part of the reason being....I'm honest as the day is long. And your post should be rephrased to include all areas of the country where poverty exists. And believe me when I say, no region is excluded.

If one looks at demographics, one will find, interestingly, that the South is growing faster than any region of the nation.

I wish you had not phrased your post this way as less than an hour ago, on CNN an African-American educator on staff at Vanderbuilt University, which of course, is here in the South spoke to this exact point. "Al Sharpton is not a representative of all of the African American Community, not at all."

(And please don't anyone pile on me about this. I really have had enough.)

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

(Disclaimer - If you are an intelligent person you will see my point in this thread. If you are not you will see this as some racisist slam against African Americans. If you see this as some slam, insult, etc, I suggest you pm me with your racial slurs. Otherwise, lets talk intelligently here ok?)

and............................................... ...................

Opened the sports section of todays USA Today and saw 48 out of 50 players were of my skin color. Front page mind you, plastered all over the front page.............................................. ................................

If you are not aware of why these 48 men are on the front page, look into it

and............................................... ...................

Had people like Rev Jackson and Sharpton "speaking" on my behalf..............

and............................................... ......................................

If, if I was African American, given all this "Drama" of the past couple days (see Imus, etc etc) I would be ashamed...........................................

African Americans deserve better then this. As a whole, you have who speaking on your behalf? Sharpton? Jackson? PLEASE! Rappers? Etc etc, IT IS TIME FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND GET someone to speak on their behalf who can REPRESENT! Represent those folks in the south, say Alabama and Georgia bustin tail for pennies on the dollar. Scrappin. How bout their kids in those schools in the south? WHERE IS THE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV JACKSON AND THE
RRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVV SHARPTON when it comes to those black kids in the south of hard workin families who go without in their schools?

NAH, THEY WOULD RATHER FOCUS ON IMUS

Originally Posted by Grits

"

(And please don't anyone pile on me about this. I really have had enough.)

If you can't take a differing opinion then why are you here? Why punish yourself and add stress to your life if the opinion of others isn't to your liking? That's crazy.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

If you can't take a differing opinion then why are you here? Why punish yourself and add stress to your life if the opinion of others isn't to your liking? That's crazy.

I don't mind the differing opinions Pillow, I can handle that and that's not the point. The point is the when I state mine, my ass gets slapped seven ways from Sunday.

And I've not been unkind to 2minTP, I wish he had made his point differently.

I simply don't think it correct to cast this kind of umbrella on any one region of the country.

And besides, I love your humor. You make me smile every single day, as do several people here. That, along with many here whose thoughts are so well stated.

[Storm Cadet]

"Opened the sports section of todays USA Today and saw 48 out of 50 players were of my skin color. Front page mind you, plastered all over the front page.............................................. ................................

If you are not aware of why these 48 men are on the front page, look into it"

OK...I can't get the cover on-line. Whats with the 48 men on the front page that is so important?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Is there anyone here who is not a personal friend of JJ?

BTW....HE DONT PLAY THAT

[brianwspencer]

Jackson and Sharpton are both deplorable (and don't worry Grits, I'm putting myself out there for an ass-handing, even though I'm as bleeding heart as it gets.)

They both act as if many of the words out of their mouth are not racist just the same as Imus's comments and any of the other non-Black people they go after. Someone needs to teach them a lesson in short order that racism comes from people of every color. Their being Black does not preclude them from being racists. Heck, there are Blacks out there who are racists when it comes to other Blacks. See the brown paper bag test.

From
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/08/31/Co...bag_test.shtml

In his 1996 book The Future of the Race, Henry Louis Gates Jr., chairman of the Afro-American studies department at Harvard, described his encounter with the brown paper bag when he came to Yale in the late 1960s, when skin-tone bias was brazenly practiced: "Some of the brothers who came from New Orleans held a "bag party.' As a classmate explained it to me, a bag party was a New Orleans custom wherein a brown paper bag was stuck on the door.

"Anyone darker than the bag was denied entrance. That was one cultural legacy that would be put to rest in a hurry - we all made sure of that. But in a manner of speaking, it was replaced by an opposite test whereby those who were deemed "not black enough' ideologically were to be shunned. I was not sure this was an improvement."

Gates was overly optimistic. The brown paper bag test remains in black culture in various incarnations, as the Applebee's case and the EEOC's statistics confirm. We separate ourselves by skin tone almost as much as we ever did. If, say, you check out the "desired" female beauties in rap videos, you will find redbones galore.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Jackson and Sharpton are both deplorable (and don't worry Grits, I'm putting myself out there for an ass-handing, even though I'm as bleeding heart as it gets.)

They both act as if many of the words out of their mouth are not racist just the same as Imus's comments and any of the other non-Black people they go after. Someone needs to teach them a lesson in short order that racism comes from people of every color. Their being Black does not preclude them from being racists. Heck, there are Blacks out there who are racists when it comes to other Blacks. See the brown paper bag test.

From
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/08/31/Co...bag_test.shtml

In his 1996 book The Future of the Race, Henry Louis Gates Jr., chairman of the Afro-American studies department at Harvard, described his encounter with the brown paper bag when he came to Yale in the late 1960s, when skin-tone bias was brazenly practiced: "Some of the brothers who came from New Orleans held a "bag party.' As a classmate explained it to me, a bag party was a New Orleans custom wherein a brown paper bag was stuck on the door.

"Anyone darker than the bag was denied entrance. That was one cultural legacy that would be put to rest in a hurry - we all made sure of that. But in a manner of speaking, it was replaced by an opposite test whereby those who were deemed "not black enough' ideologically were to be shunned. I was not sure this was an improvement."

Gates was overly optimistic. The brown paper bag test remains in black culture in various incarnations, as the Applebee's case and the EEOC's statistics confirm. We separate ourselves by skin tone almost as much as we ever did. If, say, you check out the "desired" female beauties in rap videos, you will find redbones galore.

Thank you, Brian... this is what I was trying to get across, but couldn't put into the right words.

If I was an African-American...

well my barbecuein' skillz would be tight.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Thank you, Brian... this is what I was trying to get across, but couldn't put into the right words.

You know I do everything I do, make every post I make, speak every word I speak, pen every song I pen, while thinking of you.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Somer, I have PERSONALLY met the man on several occasions and I can ASSURE you, he's a POS. Even Bill Cosby is ashamed of him... I do not appreciate what he's done. Perhaps he should look to MLK for guidance, because he has done NOTHING to help the situation and that is JMO!

By the way, what does color have to do with anything?! In order for racism to be abolished, we must stop looking at eachother by the color of our skin!

Well, the Cosby citing made me laugh. I owe you one Jello Pudding Pop.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

You know I do everything I do, make every post I make, speak every word I speak, pen every song I pen, while thinking of you.

Awww... well at least SUMWONLOVESME...

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Well, the Cosby citing made me laugh. I owe you one Jello Pudding Pop.

Best Bruce quote ever. Seriously.