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12-09-2007, 03:10 AM
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I think he finished mid pack, but i'm not exactly sure where.
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12-09-2007, 03:33 AM
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Okay thanks.
* * * Is Ben retired now? Results..... RACE 7(229) Race Class: 3yo+ - 1600 Metres THE CATHAY PACIFIC HONG KONG MILE HK$ 16,000,000.00 Course : Turf - "A" Course Race Time : (25.20) (48.3) (1.11.9) (1.34.5) Sectional Time : 25.20 23.10 23.60 22.60 1 7 GOOD BA BA(E201) O Doleuze 126 6 - 1.34.50 2 11 CREACHADOIR(J611) L Dettori 125 12 SH 1.34.50 3 13 DARJINA(J612) C Soumillon 121 9 1-1/4 1.34.70 4 6 FLORAL PEGASUS(G011) G Mosse 126 11 2 1.34.80 5 8 JOYFUL WINNER(E045) D Beadman 126 7 2-3/4 1.34.90 6 2 SPIRITO DEL VENTO(J607) O Peslier 126 13 3 1.35.00 7 3 THE DUKE(B282) G Boss 126 3 4 1.35.10 8 10 EXCELLENT ART(J610) J Murtagh 125 5 4-1/2 1.35.20 9 1 KONGO RIKISHIO(J606) S Fujita 126 1 7 1.35.60 10 4 ABLE ONE(G108) M Kinane 126 2 9 1.35.90 11 12 VISIONARIO(J095) N Callan 125 8 10 1.36.10 12 5 AL QASI(J608) R Moore 126 10 11-1/4 1.36.20 13 9 DOWN TOWN(G054) D Whyte 126 4 11-1/4 1.36.20 * * * Good luck to Vengeance of Rain, Shadow Gate and Ramonti. 
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12-09-2007, 03:38 AM
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Not going very quickly in the Cup.
Ramonti wins......... gutted! Dettori cut Viva Pataca up in the straight, i think that cost Viva the race.
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12-09-2007, 03:39 AM
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Inquiry...
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12-09-2007, 03:39 AM
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Stewards enquiry.
Viva Pataca was very unlucky, even a Ramonti fan would have to agree with that.
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12-09-2007, 03:41 AM
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You know Viva's owner is throwing his traditional fit right now.....
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12-09-2007, 03:47 AM
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The result wouldn't get changed over here, but i'm not sure what the rules are like in Hong Kong.
Viva would have won with a clear run, but i'm not sure if it was anyone's fault. If anything both jockeys (Dettori and Kinane) should share the blame. Whatever happens, VP was unlucky, without a doubt.
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12-09-2007, 03:51 AM
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Objection overruled.
Ramonti keeps the race. Dettori didn't actually do much wrong after watching the head on replay. Kinane should have known better than to aim for a gap, which wasn't really there. Not Kinane's best ride. Poor Viva, he would have won 
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12-09-2007, 07:33 AM
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Didnt get to see the race at all, but can anyone tell me what happened to Miss Andretti? Was it she just couldnt handle that way of going or did she look sore? etc.
Thanks guys!
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12-09-2007, 09:50 AM
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She soon tired. It was always going to be difficult for her from that draw. She is a great horse and i'd just forget about this run because everything went wrong for her. We all know how good she is, she had nothing to prove.
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12-09-2007, 10:47 AM
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Apache sistah...
Here's the incident report..... MARCHAND DR and GREEN BIRDIE were slow to begin. On jumping, SUNNY POWER got its head up and lost ground. In the early stages, MISS ANDRETTI, which was racing wide and without cover, proved difficult to settle and got its head up. N Callow (WHY BE) was found guilty of a charge of careless riding [Rule 100(1)] in that making the turn at the 800 Metres he permitted his mount to shift in when not clear of MISS ANDRETTI, causing that horse to be carried in and caused crowding on its inside to DESERT LORD which as a result was carried in across the rightful running of ABSOLUTE CHAMPION, causing that horse to be checked. SACRED KINGDOM and MARCHAND DR, which were following, were hampered in consequence. In the circumstances of this case, the Stewards believed the appropriate penalty was for N Callow licence to ride in races to be suspended for a period to expire on Monday 24 December 2007 on which day he may resume race riding (4 Hong Kong racedays). This suspension commences with immediate effect. Prior to straightening, GREEN BIRDIE was steadied and shifted to the outside of TIZA. B Prebble (ABSOLUTE CHAMPION) pleaded guilty to a charge of careless riding [Rule 100(1)] in that near the 300 Metres he permitted his mount to shift in when not clear of DESERT LORD, causing that horse to be carried in across the rightful running of BENBAUN which was checked. In this incident, SUNNY SING became unbalanced as a result of being bumped on the hindquarters by BENBAUN. B Prebble was suspended from riding in races for a period to expire on Thursday 27 December 2007 on which day he may resume race riding (3 Hong Kong racedays). The commencement of the suspension was deferred until after the Sha Tin racemeeting on Saturday 15 December 2007. In addition, B Prebble was fined $40,000 in lieu of a suspension for a period incorporating one further raceday. In the Straight, MARCHAND DR hung in. Throughout the race, WHY BE travelled wide and without cover. When questioned regarding the poor performance of MISS ANDRETTI, C Newitt explained from a wide barrier with the intention of going forward, he was required to make use of his mount in the early stages. He said as a consequence of this MISS ANDRETTI then proved difficult to settle and raced ungenerously. He said making the turn after the 800 Metres MISS ANDRETTI failed to change leads and raced on the wrong leg. He said MISS ANDRETTI did travel wide throughout the race, obtained cover for a short distance prior to straightening, but then failed to finish the race off. He said in his opinion the main reason for the performance of MISS ANDRETTI was racing on the wrong leg at its first start racing on a right handed track. MISS ANDRETTI was sent for an official veterinary inspection. A veterinary inspection of MISS ANDRETTI after the race did not show any significant findings. SACRED KINGDOM and ABSOLUTE CHAMPION were sent for sampling. All the replays..... http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/r...eno=8&venue=ST
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I have to say that it was a thoroughly enjoyable early morning of racing. Sacred Kingdom was awesome in the sprint. the HK sprinters have always been very strong and this one is another off the conveyor belt. Absoute Champion was brilliant in it last year and was readily put in his place (both last night and in the trials!) It was a pity that Miss Andretti didnt run her race to get a relative rating, but she'll have other days..
yeah have to 100% agree with NoChance regarding Dylan. seeing him in the ring, you wouldnt put your worst enemy's money on him.. he was never going to win and ran accordingly. Pleased for Doctor Dino though. He's a nice horse. Hes actually been on the go in G1 company since April (when losing to Dylan), but crucially, he got a 2 month break during the summer which allowed him to continue on in form for these later months. Oh and I must congratulate connections of Arch Rebel , tremendous in 4th. Similar enough comments apply to Creachadoir as Doctor Dino as he got a lengthy break after his many races early spring and he has indeed surprised me a bit since joining Godolphin. But well done to Good BaBa. very disappointing for Excellant Art. I was dleighted for Ramonti who is turning into a real superstar for the boys in blue. Aanother fab performance and another top quality ride from Frankie (he seems to keep them for Ramonti). He was where he should have been the whole time and smartly kept Kinane at bay. Cant wait to see him next year where he might develop into a dirt performer. He is so tough that you wouldnt be surpirsed at all if he does. Anyone know how many Martin Alonso's have tried dirt? Anyone know any other decent horse by Martin Alonso??
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12-09-2007, 10:54 PM
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Ahh yes racing on the wrong lead will do that. And a bad gate. Sad though, cause Freedman made sure she trained the wrong way while in quarantine at Sandown, and she handled it fine. Its actually her preferred leg to lead on. Maybe the going forward upset her as well, i mean froggy said she never settled. Oh well.. heres to next time.
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12-09-2007, 11:40 PM
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I think she just got beat by faster horses.
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12-10-2007, 05:38 AM
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The four big races on the Sha Tin card are billed as the World Thoroughbred Turf Championships, but only the $1.5 million, six-furlong Hong Kong Sprint will crown a definitive world champ. That could be Australian rocket Miss Andretti. The winner of three Group 1 sprints Down Under this year, she has also won the Group 2 King's Stand Stakes at Royal Ascot and is coming off a sharp Group 2 score at home. Her draw of post 12 in a field of 13 should not be a disadvantage in this one-turn contest, but the International Sprint Trial winner, Sacred Kingdom, and defending title-holder Absolute Champion pose very serious threats. So do British invader Benbaun and the dangerous Marchand d'Or, a two-time Freddie Head-trained Group 1 winner who could be the day's value play at 14-1. I agree that the post was no excuse after watching the race. She was just in tough and got it handed to her. As for the other races, I totally expected to see Dylan Thomas and Excellent Art get their asses kicked. I guess nobody has paid any attention to the post BC results of several of the horses that have run back that put in big efforts in the BC races. Nobiz Like Shobiz, Host, Midnight Lute and Cosmonaut all have come back to get handled at short odds. I don't think people realize what it means to train a horse to be at his absolute best at the end of a long season for a specific race and then ask them to come back and repeat that effort again on a relatively quick turnaround. Dylan's connections did him wrong twice. I've long said that there is a reason why no Arc winner has come over to win the BC Turf and Dylan continued that tradition this year. Many people wanted to write off his loss as a result of the course but he proved here that it wasn't the course, it was bad training decisions. The horse was clearly at the end of his rope in the Arc, when barely outlasting a rival that he had destroyed a few months earlier and when zig-zagging all over Paris to get it done. Not only did they try to squeeze the lemon again but they tried to do it twice. For good measure, they did it both times after shipping very long distances. Brilliant. The same doesn't quite hold true for Excellent Art but very near. He ran a bang up race in the QE II Stakes to be second to Ramonti before running another one in the BC Mile. I think his effort in the BC Mile was extraordinary coming on the heels of the race at Ascot and I left that race with the impression that he was clearly the best horse in that race but was unlucky. Instead of leaving well enough alone though, his connections also decided to try and squeeze that lemon again. Up the track drubbing. The results of Dylan and Excellent Art were as predictable as the sun rising in the East. Meanwhile, on the flip side, u have Ramonti, Doctor Dino and Darjina. All three of them skipped the BC races to make sure they had something left in the tank. All three of their connections were rewarded with outstanding performances.
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I don't think anyone here expected either to win.There have been quite a few threads where Dylan was discussed..... just to be fair, i don't remember anyone here saying anything other than it's been a long season for him, too long. EA never had a chance. Now Good Ba Ba..... (!!!!!) 
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12-10-2007, 10:55 AM
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I meant to ask you King, what did you think of the locals?
Just wondering cause of the Silent Witness (applause!  ) debate days..... you kinda said he won cause he beat the same horses over and over.What did you think? Were you impressed?
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12-10-2007, 02:00 PM
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 If it did i would be a rich man by now  .I dont even think they can use the wrong way rule because even tho victoria runs in the opposite direction,NSW & Qld Don't.
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12-11-2007, 10:34 AM
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Sunny Sing (the former Sacred Nuts) retired.
I think he was hurt.....
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12-12-2007, 01:17 AM
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For G...
Just thought you'd be happy to know he ended his career in the top ten. Top 50 Horses (as of 10/12/2007) 130 SACRED KINGDOM G268 P F Yiu 129 VIVA PATACA G096 J Moore 128 ARMADA E246 J Size 128 VENGEANCE OF RAIN D142 D E Ferraris 127 GOOD BA BA E201 A Schutz 126 ABSOLUTE CHAMPION E060 D J Hall 123 FLORAL PEGASUS G011 A S Cruz 123 HELLO PRETTY E210 A S Cruz 122 THE DUKE B282 C Fownes 121 DOWN TOWN G054 C H Yip 121 JOYFUL WINNER E045 J Moore 120 ROYAL DELIGHT G192 C Fownes 120 SCINTILLATION C228 C S Shum 119 ABLE ONE G108 J Moore 118 BULLISH LUCK C155 A S Cruz 118 GREEN TREASURE D225 C Fownes 118 SUNNY POWER G203 K W Lui 118 VITAL KING G222 P O'Sullivan 117 EGYPTIAN RA E002 D J Hall 116 SIR ERNESTO G051 D Cruz 116 VIVA MACAU H110 J Moore 115 ART TRADER E131 J Moore 115 MEDIC POWER G303 P O'Sullivan 114 RIVER JORDAN G194 J Moore 114 ROYAL PRINCE H072 A S Cruz 113 SUNNY SING E135 J Moore 112 DANACOURT E228 J Moore 111 FRIENDLY GAINS G300 K L Man 111 GOLD STRIKER D365 J Size 111 PACKING WINNER E334 L Ho 109 SYLLABUS D388 D E Ferraris 108 ABLE PRINCE C348 J Moore 108 GREEN BIRDIE H245 C Fownes 108 PLANET RULER B359 A Lee 108 REGENCY HORSE E229 D E Ferraris 108 TIBER D155 J Moore 107 FLAMING LAMBORGINI E146 C S Shum 107 HAWKES BAY G064 D J Hall 106 FAMOUS DANCER D353 J Moore 106 POCKET MONEY E253 J Size 105 AMBITIOUS GENERAL J066 D J Hall 105 EXCELLENT BOY E238 C Fownes 105 HELENE BRILLIANT H174 A S Cruz 105 MY CHOICE C283 D J Hall 105 NATURAL BLITZ E227 D Cruz 105 PLASTIC POLYMER H034 J Size 105 SURVEY SURVEY H070 A S Cruz 104 SUNNY KING H105 J Moore 103 CHAMPIONS GALLERY H104 A Schutz 103 LASER POWER E129 D J Hall 102 NOBLE CONQUEROR G169 C Fownes 102 ROYAL PRIDE J119 C Fownes
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