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Old 03-09-2008, 01:40 PM
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Default beat the drums, sound the gong, Big Brown is here

As I think BTW mentioned (probably more than once), there sure is a lot of hype in the media about this horse. Bill Finley goes out of his way to portray BB as some sort of happenstance messiah:
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ill&id=3282031

Seems to me there's a little journalistic liberty being taken here, like in this excerpt:
"Leading up to the March 5 race, Dutrow was only able to give the colt a pair of short, easy works. For that reason, he wasn't expecting a big effort."

Here's the posted works:
03/01/2008-PALM MEADOWS TRAINING CENTER-Five Furlongs-Dirt Fast-1.00:50 Handily
02/24/2008-PALM MEADOWS TRAINING CENTER-Four Furlongs-Dirt Fast-48:00 Handily
These are short, easy works?

I think Randy Moss's take on BB is more realistic:
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ndy&id=3282004

I guess we won't know until the Florida Derby just how good BB really is. But even if BB holds it together until then, what are the odds such a seemingly fragile animal (even by thoroughbred standards) will stay fit until the Derby? Even a minor set back is going to knock this one off his training, since he's already playing catch up. I can't get real excited about this band wagon. I'm sure they'll be another one along any minute.
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:42 PM
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Thanks for that.

Once again Randy Moss shows why he shines above all the rest.
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:54 PM
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as you said he has talent but lets see him vs some good ones on the dirt getting roped wide and dirt in his face.. the excuses are endless












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Old 03-09-2008, 02:03 PM
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Thanks for that.

Once again Randy Moss shows why he shines above all the rest.
have always liked randy moss, and enjoy him on the racing coverage--wish they hadn't taken his show off of t.v.
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:06 PM
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He is the best TV commentator racing has ever had. It's shocking that someone that good has gotten into such a prominent position in this twisted industry.
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:07 PM
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this jewel from finley is what caught my attention in the above linked article:


' He'll run next in the March 29 Florida Derby, where, you have to think, he has a big chance.'


you have to think? that's not my first thought when i think about big brown going to the fla derby. it's not even in my thought process at all with this horse.
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:08 PM
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Big Brown, Hey Bryn and other "now" horses.....I'll stick with War Pass over these types anyday.
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:09 PM
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Ain't that the truth. Nothing personal against Finley, but he should be embarrassed with that article.
I thought both articles were good. I don't see anything Finley should be embarrased about.
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:10 PM
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Ain't that the truth. Nothing personal against Finley, but he should be embarrassed with that article.
I know Bill Heller is a huge fan of Mr. Finley
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Finley is horrible. How about this gem, "So Dutrow found a March 5 turf allowance at Gulfstream Park, which might just have been a springboard to stakes races you've probably never heard of, like the Palm Beach Stakes or the Hill Prince."

Yeah, racing fans have never heard of races like the Hill Prince. Maybe one of the big problems for racing is that other than guys like Beyer, Crist and Randy Moss, most people write as though the fans are stupid. We're not stupid. Alright some of us are, but for the most part we as fans are a pretty sharp bunch.
You forget to name one other person to that list

I'm not "stupid" .....just "clueless"
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Finley is horrible. How about this gem, "So Dutrow found a March 5 turf allowance at Gulfstream Park, which might just have been a springboard to stakes races you've probably never heard of, like the Palm Beach Stakes or the Hill Prince."

Yeah, racing fans have never heard of races like the Hill Prince. Maybe one of the big problems for racing is that other than guys like Beyer, Crist and Randy Moss, most people write as though the fans are stupid. We're not stupid. Alright some of us are, but for the most part we as fans are a pretty sharp bunch.
It's Bill Finley...what do you expect? The funny thing about his writing is that if you didnt know better you would think he only covered horseracing part time.
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Old 03-09-2008, 04:53 PM
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Huh?? I'm not talking about you at all.
No, the "clueless" reference is from another thread.

I agree with you totally, but there are others who seem to know everything about this sport.....I'm not one, but listen to others opinions. Opinions.....everybody's got them.
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Old 03-09-2008, 04:58 PM
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Finley is horrible. How about this gem, "So Dutrow found a March 5 turf allowance at Gulfstream Park, which might just have been a springboard to stakes races you've probably never heard of, like the Palm Beach Stakes or the Hill Prince."

Yeah, racing fans have never heard of races like the Hill Prince. Maybe one of the big problems for racing is that other than guys like Beyer, Crist and Randy Moss, most people write as though the fans are stupid. We're not stupid. Alright some of us are, but for the most part we as fans are a pretty sharp bunch.
I see your point.That seems to be unnecessary.
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I can't fault Finley for that article. You have to remember that ESPN caters to the lowest common denominator. How else can you explain Stuart Scott?
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Boundary is an excellent sire when it comes to mudders. The track may not be muddy for his next start and he might not like running on a fast dry track.

and.. I think Dutrow is al out of horse by the time he gets to the big dance.

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