mccarron to tvg

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Wow, spitting fire. I like it.

I do however, think we need a new list on here, since the a-hole list is now in heaven. We need a most bitter list. I believe we have a strong front runner.

That's interesting.

I could think of a few on here that might be placed higher, but I'd like to know what in my posts makes you think I should head that list.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I pretty much hate all riders and I don't follow Cali racing as much as NY, so i don't know what he was like in the 80's. But, do you really think he waited too long in that Classic? I'll have to watch it again, but I thought I remember seeing him get into Alysheba pretty early, like before they even hit the turn.

yeah, perhaps 20 years has clouded my memory and i could stand to watch the race between ferd and sheba again.

however, there really were far too many times mccarron waited and waited and waited.

his ride on sheba in the belmont was very typical of his thinking. i'm not saying sheba would have beaten bet twice that day, but taking him that far back in a race where speed rules (despite the distance) was typical of his poor tactical thinking. sheba was a much faster horse than generally recognized (by fast i mean he had very nice tactical speed) and if he had been more forwardly placed, the race could easily have come out differently.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I was just screwing around with you. You'd be no higher than third.

Do you really not think you're bitter? it's not a bad thing.

Yeah, I'm generally a fairly bitter person, but that has nothing to do with this.

I'm someone who went to the track on average about five times a week from 1985 to the late 90's, and believe me, for most of that time, people in socal who were track regulars did not respect him as a rider. At least until the mid 90's anyways.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

if he had been more forwardly placed, the race could easily have come out differently.

Your memory is very clouded.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Your memory is very clouded.

Go do some more spaghetti!

My point being, as you know already, that had he been used more intelligently in the race, he'd have gotten second instead of fourth, and there is no doubt he'd have finished much closer to Bet Twice than he did.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

If you believe that Shoe was the only legitimate jockey to compare to Mccarron, well, I don't know what to say to that!!

Pincay was certainly better than both.

PVal when he didn't have his head up his butt.

Cordero.

Bailey.

Eddie D.

Toro on the turf even!

Gary Stevens before he fell in love with himself.

Kent D. before his second or third fall.

All a s s kissers as I recall ( Pat was kissing his own with his head always near.)

McCarron would put your horse in the position to win and it was up to the trainer to have him fit enough to finish.

Cashed alot of tickets with Chris in the saddle.

I would like to add that anybody that takes delight in someone being hurt has a serious mental flaw. I was at the track the day Chris fall and got trampled, He was riding Encoded down in on the rail and his horse went down nearing the 3/8 pole. He was lucky to survive.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

I would like to add that anybody that takes delight in someone being hurt has a serious mental flaw.

Rough day on this board for Whittingham I guess.

Dude is getting accused of juicing legends and cheering jockey injuries in seperate threads.

[CSC]

First of all is Vic Stauffer the true Vic Stauffer here?
Secondly haven't we decided that jockies are overrated anyway?
Thirdly while Mccarron was hardly a slug of a Jockey, he did happen to give one of the worst rides in Preakness history on Touch Gold, though TG did stumble at the break, it was a nightmarish trip beyond belief or certainly of a jockey of Mccarron's stature.

Originally Posted by CSC

First of all is Vic Stauffer the true Vic Stauffer here?
Secondly haven't we decided that jockies are overrated anyway?
Thirdly while Mccarron was hardly a slug of a Jockey, he did happen to give one of the worst rides in Preakness history on Touch Gold, though TG did stumble at the break, it was a nightmarish trip beyond belief or certainly of a jockey of Mccarron's stature.

Now you've got me wondering.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Now you've got me wondering.

I was always a fan of the "straight and strong" signature. Every announcer has to have an unique thing that distinguishes themselves. That one works for me.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Wow, spitting fire. I like it.

I do however, think we need a new list on here, since the a-hole list is now in heaven. We need a most bitter list. I believe we have a strong front runner.

For real...

Has to be living in the middle of bum**** Maine that gets to him....

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Scav

For real...

Has to be living in the middle of bum**** Maine that gets to him....

I live in South Western Maine, less than a mile from the New Hampshire state line about an hour and a half from Boston. I'm not that much stuck in the sticks.

What gets to me are people who think they are cute that try to put words into my mouth.

I was going to say 'idiots' at first instead.

[The Bid]

Charlie do you ever get to Rockingham or Belmont

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Charlie do you ever get to Rockingham or Belmont

No to both, but Rockingham might be doable. I'd be interested in going there.

I may hook up with my friend from Joisey, and perhaps Druggie, at toga.

Why? Do you go to Rockingham?

[The Bid]

Yes.

My girlfriend is in Grad school in MA, and whenever I visit I spend my days at Rockingham. She lives in MA, but a couple miles from the NH boarder. Rockingham is about 10 minutes from her house.

I cant say much for the way Rockingham treats a player, but I do like the atmosphere.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

he could not stand mccarron, even though he used him pretty frequently on some great animals.

nitpick and flame away.

That seems quite oxymoronic. If he was so bad and such a pain...how on earth and why on earth would people that couldn't stand him put him on great animals???

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

That seems quite oxymoronic. If he was so bad and such a pain...how on earth and why on earth would people that couldn't stand him put him on great animals???

Uh, you're kidding me, right?