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how do the horses who finish 15-20 enhance the race?
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It's not about after the race, but before.
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Though I would like to see Big Truck get another win, I have a hunch that Kentucky Bear is going to run big here. I'll probably bet a trillion dollars on him to win if his odds stay generous.
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Re: Kentucky Bear, because when one sees a 50-1 shot with a legit shot at crashing the tri.......although realistically I doubt he will be over 20-1. The horse was 4-1 in the FOY.
As for who should like the surface and who shouldn't, while I'm not a fan of synthetics, I've been tracking what stallions' offspring handle it best. Here's who should move up and who should regress: SHOULD MOVE UP Visionaire- Grand Slam is one of the top synthetic sires I've seen. GS first time poly has been a strong angle. GS's usually handle dirt or turf. Cowboy Cal--Giants Causeway another solid synthetic sire. He's only run on dirt once and that was sprinting against a strong field of Sar Mdns Kentucky Bear--love the Mr. Greeley offspring on synthetic. As a runner, I only remember him running on dirt but his offspring like the fake stuff. LOOKING TO REGRESS Big Truck---I really haven't seen many Hook and Ladder runners but he was strictly a dirt sprinter. His turf Tomlinson is solid but he'll have to show me first. Pyro---he may be good enough to win even if he doesn't really love the stuff. Like AP Indy, most Pulpits would rather run on real dirt or grass. Cool Coal Man--haven't seen many Mineshafts yet but being by AP Indy, they tend to be overbet on Poly. |
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I don't really understand how people can be backing Pyro at anything close to even money in a full field when he has no form on synthetics, Pulpits have not done well on synthetics, Lapenta has already said that Stevil is there to get in Pyro's way as much as possible, and he doesn't need the earnings like some others so won't be fully cranked. You already have four horses with decent synthetic/turf form in Monba, Cowboy Cal, Halo Najib, and Medjool that at 15/1+ on the morning line all make for far better plays. Plus if Kentucky Bear goes off anywhere near 50/1 he's a great play. Honestly, I think considering the circumstances that Pyro is only about 50/50 to even hit the board.
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I have to think Pyro has a very
good chance of winning mainly because he is the best horse. No I would not bet it at the prices given. And maybe it is a fairly meaningless race for him other than a workout. But maybe the horse does not know this. So they roll down the stretch, and Shaun B. feels Pyro telling him lets go. The horse knows what he is supposed to do. So S.B does not ask him? |
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I dont understand half of what you guys talk about on here lol but Im learning as I go. Alot of helpful info though so thank you guys. Goodluck to all today. With that said I havnt heard much talk about Visionaire. Does he stand a shot to hit the board with the 12 posts he drew?
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All kidding aside, probably not ... but it would be ironic.
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Because its on the rubber,
I think Sniper is right. But I think people might be wishing a bit too much also. Bettors and Owners. The main reason we got 13 horses going against Pyro is the rubber (and that there is a possible intention to use this as a training session before the real event). If this were a dirt event and Pyro needed the money to get in, the field would be much shorter of course. A few would be thrown in because its the last chance for some of these to get enough earnings. There would be no other horses I like enough to go against the best horse in this race. I wish I had strong feelings about one other as a winner but I personally do not. Its neat to read the views of others. |
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