Big Brown and Winstrol....questions

[rontheman1964]

Ok, we now know this horse is being injected with a legal steroid (winstrol) on the 15th of every month. Besides the obvious muscle growth this steroid promotes; is anyone worried about possible side effects down the road?

Does anyone on this board know how common is it to give steroids to horses as part of their normal routine? (not to heal an injury) Do all of Dutrow's horses get winstrol? Is it expensive?

If he breaks down on the track do we question why steroids are legal for equine athletes in 28 of the 38 states? (too much 'manufactured' muscle for his skeleton and tendons to support.)

If he wins the Triple Crown do we put an asterisk next to his name like Barry Bonds?

Just asking some questions about this sport where people (some good some bad) get to make the decisions for the equine athletes.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

is anyone worried about possible side effects down the road?

No

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Does anyone on this board know how common is it to give steroids to horses as part of their normal routine? Do all of Dutrow's horses get winstrol? Is it expensive?

From what I know roughly about 70% of horses run on them. About 90% of trainers use them. Yes and No

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

If he breaks down on the track do we question why steroids are legal for equine athletes in 28 of the 38 states? (too much 'manufactured' muscle for his skeleton and tendons to support.)

People will question it if he breaks down or not.

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

If he wins the Triple Crown do we put an asterisk next to his name like Barry Bonds?

This is a dumb question. It's legal - has been used in horses since the late 60's and probably the bulk of his competition is also using them.

[VOL JACK]

Q&A with Drugs about drugs. nice!!

[sumitas]

It's ok, it's only steroids once a month.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Q&A with Drugs about drugs. nice!!

There are people on here who probably know a lot more about it than I do even though I've researched it a little.

Someone on PA claims to have used Winstrol on himself....

I started to read through some of his old posts and was going to pull out one of his best and put an * next to it - however, it only proved that Winstrol doesn't improve your posting performance.

[sumitas]

Some info here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanozolol

[rontheman1964]

Is the general idea that this steroid doesn't enhance the athletic performance of the horse? That it is to keep the horse's attitude right, his appetite good, and keep him in training?

[sumitas]

I apologize if this article has been posted before. It is quite insightful.

An excerpt :

"Winstrol, or “Winny,” an injectable version of Stanozolol, is what Roger Clemens’s trainer claims he shot into the Rocket’s tush in 1998. It is also the most popular anabolic steroid in the world of equine athletes."
Jim Squires, NY Times

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/200...instrol-derby/

[blackthroatedwind]

When can we expect your last post not presented by Seagrams?

[sumitas]

I just had some organic milk and cookies. Just got out of work. Hope that satisfies your curiosity.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by sumitas

I just had some organic milk and cookies. Just got out of work. Hope that satisfies your curiosity.

I always suspected you were actually seven years old.

[Kasept]

It was posted when it appeared three weeks ago. Squires, the former Chicago newspaperman that bred Monarchos, has been the best addition to the NYT's blog-heavy revised race coverage.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Feel free to delete the thread then. I don't want to be redundant.

Will merge it with the Winstrol question thread as it applies to the legal v. banning discussion that will likely percolate.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Is the general idea that this steroid doesn't enhance the athletic performance of the horse? That it is to keep the horse's attitude right, his appetite good, and keep him in training?

How could something that makes a horse eat better and makes his muscles recover better not enhance his athletic performance?

From what I understand - it probably has a better impact on geldings and fillies than colts.

Trainers will tell you that if it is administered correctly - it's no more dangerous for horses than the X-ray machine at the dentist is for humans.

I'm going by what trainers say - I'd obviously prefer everything be banned except hay, oats, and water.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by sumitas

I apologize if this article has been posted before. It is quite insightful.

An excerpt :

"Winstrol, or “Winny,” an injectable version of Stanozolol, is what Roger Clemens’s trainer claims he shot into the Rocket’s tush in 1998. It is also the most popular anabolic steroid in the world of equine athletes."
Jim Squires, NY Times

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/200...instrol-derby/

I bet Big Brown can throw a 100 MPH fastball.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I bet Big Brown can throw a 100 MPH fastball.

Probably has a bunch of blonde girlfriends too.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Am I the only one who got a laugh out of this?

I chortled..

[Danzig]

interesting to note however, that jones had to get eight belles tested for steroiods to quiet the rabble rousers, yet not a peep from the hordes about the derby winner running on the stuff.

[notyep59]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I chortled..

did you say "excuse me"? i snickered...then guffawed.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by notyep59

did you say "excuse me"? i snickered...then guffawed.

i tittered...followed by a snigger.