World wants Obama

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Certainly it's not totally one way, but it's controlled by people who are one way. That's always the important thing(who gets to decide.) Where you are, it's necks deciding for you. I never said it was totally neck thinking, but there's 100% necks in control of the decision making.

you do realize that our two senators and the governor are all democrats, that most of our pols are dems? you also realize that bill clinton was the governor here before becoming president? how'd that work out for the country overall?

and you have a republican governor who is against gun control. i think you better look around and realize that there are people in your state, as well as every state, who also are anti-abortion, and hunt and own guns. just like there are plenty of people here in the south who are pro-choice, think gay marriage is ok ( as they think the govt should be out of our private lives as much as possible) and are desirous of gun control. you paint a pretty broad picture-and you've probably never been here, and never spoken to anyone who lives here. believe it or not, we have running water and indoor plumbing.
no doubt there are folks where you live scuds who are also very liberal, yet you have a conservative governor-so the POV in your own state is a varied one. yet you don't understand that the same happens all over the country.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and scuds, i know you're angry because i mentioned your use of nascartonia, and that hits close to home-since you're beloved state hosts how many nascar events now? they seem pretty popular there as well.

No, I am proud of the title of Nascartonia. My God, I even named it for you folks. That's a beautiful name. You could make even an RNB Song with that title. It's a beautiful 5 syllable mastapiece.

Nascartooooonia....Nascartooonia ....dada-dada ..<de>...dada-dada...<da.>. dada-dada ..<ooh> .. <K>..<PEOPLE EV-RYWHERE >...<LISTEN NOW>..<LISTEN NOW>
<'CAUSE ALL I NEED>
<all>...<I>...<WANT>
<all> <I> EVER WAN'TED.......ALL I...EVER GUNNA NEED......
IS My Nascartooooonia....My Nascartooonia

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

No, I am proud of the title of Nascartonia. My God, I even named it for you folks. That's a beautiful name. You could make even an RNB Song with that title. It's a beautiful 5 syllable mastapiece.

Nascartooooonia....Nascartooonia ....dada-dada ..<de>...dada-dada...<da.>. dada-dada ..<ooh> .. <K>..<PEOPLE EV-RYWHERE >...<LISTEN NOW>..<LISTEN NOW>
<'CAUSE ALL I NEED>
<all>...<I>...<WANT>
<all> <I> EVER WAN'TED.......ALL I...EVER GUNNA NEED......
IS My Nascartooooonia....My Nascartooonia

you folks. a lot of people here don't even watch it, but you don't seem to want to accept that your broad picture isn't correct.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

yes that was what i was reffering too. and the first wtc bombing.

If you remember Clinton's 'Bridge to the 21st century' acceptance speech at the '96 DNC he ruined it by droning on for minutes about the great future threat of foreign terrorisim.

Much like with Scuds Dodgers obssesion - few people really cared about the subject at the time - and it was vintage Clinton fear mongering .. albeit at levels that have unbelievably been topped by the Chimp.

I'd love to know how Clinton was supposed to stop an ultra high concept, low tech, type of attack that occured 9 months after he left office.

I guess he could have personally captured and killed Osama bin Laden before the plans were made - probably not an easy task considering he's still at helm of Al Qaeda 7 years after the execution of 9/11.

I reffered to bin Laden a couple of times and compared a poster to him in posts at the old AOL Horse Racing board before the attacts on 9/11. A few people who post here remember them - and people seemed to have no idea who the hell bin Laden was at the time.

The USS Cole attack was overshadowed bigtime in the press by what was going in with the Bush and Gore fiasco. I wish Clinton would have tried to use the USS Cole as an excuse to launch an invasion on a random foreign country that had nothing to do with the incident.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you do realize that our two senators and the governor are all democrats, that most of our pols are dems? you also realize that bill clinton was the governor here before becoming president? how'd that work out for the country overall?

and you have a republican governor who is against gun control. i think you better look around and realize that there are people in your state, as well as every state, who also are anti-abortion, and hunt and own guns. just like there are plenty of people here in the south who are pro-choice, think gay marriage is ok ( as they think the govt should be out of our private lives as much as possible) and are desirous of gun control. you paint a pretty broad picture-and you've probably never been here, and never spoken to anyone who lives here. believe it or not, we have running water and indoor plumbing.
no doubt there are folks where you live scuds who are also very liberal, yet you have a conservative governor-so the POV in your own state is a varied one. yet you don't understand that the same happens all over the country.

Our Governor is just cheap. That's his one main Republican value. He's been riding that one issue his whole life. I see we are voting blue again, and Obama is down 10 points in OURNECKN'SAW.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you folks. a lot of people here don't even watch it, but you don't seem to want to accept that your broad picture isn't correct.

RESPECT MY ART!!!!!




lol

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Our Governor is just cheap. That's his one main Republican value. He's been riding that one issue his whole life. I see we are voting blue again, and Obama is down 10 points in OURNECKN'SAW.

he's down ten points nationwide (according to a poll of likely voters), i guess it's u-necked states of america? it's a shame that he didn't choose hillary tho, she'd have carried this state for him, which would have presented quite a conundrum for you.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he's down ten points nationwide (according to a poll of likely voters), i guess it's u-necked states of america? it's a shame that he didn't choose hillary tho, she'd have carried this state for him, which would have presented quite a conundrum for you.

Hey...that 10%(nationwide) is because Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Idaho, and Utah are approaching 90% for McCain.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

RESPECT MY ART!!!!!




lol

maybe you need a new box of fat crayons?!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Its funny how back when I lived in Arizona John McCain was known as the man who steps over party lines and goes for what he believes is right.. not just what the Repubs think. For some reason, the message Barak Obama sends out about McCain is very different.

Please.. It's not 'the message Obama sends out'.. McCain has dramatically altered his stances in the past eight years to align himself more with 'conservatives'..

And your comment about Bush being '10 times the Commander in Chief was' would be hilarious if there weren't other people out there who thought that for God knows what reason.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Hey...that 10%(nationwide) is because Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Idaho, and Utah are approaching 90% for McCain.

but none of those are really big, or swing states are they? or have many electoral votes?
is it going to come down to fla and ohio again?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Please.. It's not 'the message Obama sends out'.. McCain has dramatically altered his stances in the past eight years to align himself more with 'conservatives'..

And your comment about Bush being '10 times the Commander in Chief was' would be hilarious if there weren't other people out there who thought that for God knows what reason.

oh no, religion being brought into it!! j/k

and i think mccain altered his message to be more palatable to 'the party'. it worked, he got the nomination- one of my chief problems with having two parties with such power. you have to tie the party line, or they drop you-like with joe lieberman.

i don't think bush has been a good commander in chief, and i think his foreign policy has been horrible.
but, and i know they're on opposite sides of the spectrum...we now have obama, young, not much experience, no foreign policy credentials-so they're touting that he'll have plenty of experienced staff, and that that's why he went with biden. but we had the same argument eight years ago for bush, and that hasn't worked well. altho with the opposing party, would obama be able to handle the task either?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but none of those are really big, or swing states are they? or have many electoral votes?
is it going to come down to fla and ohio again?

I think Florida is probably McCain's. NEVADA, COLORADO, NEW HAMPSIRE, OHIO, VIRGINIA are the 5 that are close.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I think Florida is probably McCain's. NEVADA, COLORADO, NEW HAMPSIRE, OHIO, VIRGINIA are the 5 that are close.

those pesky redneck states!

mccain probably appeals to the raisin ranch voter....now that wasn't very nice, was it?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

he's just cranky because of all the states that he has had to recolor from blue to red during this week and doesn't want to face the fact that Ohio and Virginia are not blue anymore either. redneck bastions Michigan and Pennsylvania will be next.

Guess again.

Here's a link showing Obama has just opened up in Ohio ....

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...ccain-in-ohio/

Ohio and Virgina are going to be tough states for Obama. Bush carried them both twice - and even though Virgina is trending away from the Republicans - they still haven't lost Virgina since '64.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

those pesky redneck states!

mccain probably appeals to the raisin ranch voter....now that wasn't very nice, was it?

McCain appeals to almost every selfish, cheap, or racist voter in the country. Zig, that's simply a lot of folks. You remember that racist Marge Scott,right? Cincy's finest representative voter.

[Danzig]

now, i know no racist would vote for obama-but where does cheap and selfish come in? if obama is going to lower taxes, seems cheap/selfish would vote for him.
but it's funny that you mention racism, yet you admitted you wouldn't vote for obama if he was a muslim-isn't that similar?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

McCain appeals to almost every selfish, cheap, or racist voter in the country. Zig, that's simply a lot of folks. You remember that racist Marge Scott,right? Cincy's finest representative voter.

Looking at the world thru your eyes is like watching "Clockwork Orange"
Stay in that high tower,buddy!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yet you admitted you wouldn't vote for obama if he was a muslim-isn't that similar?

He was probably just traumatized by this..

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/456363...the_white_man/

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He was probably just traumatized by this..

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/456363...the_white_man/

i don't agree of course with anyone who labels an entire group, or advocates killing anyone. but how would saying 'all muslims' be any different than that fellow and his probable feelings toward 'all whites'? bigotry and xenophobia are no better than racism, sexism, etc. they are all based on fear of what's different, unknown, stereotyping, etc.