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Old 09-12-2008, 04:04 PM
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The board who bought your bullsh!t owns 100% of the blame. Not the faker.

Lincoln Chafee was the only Republican in the Senate to vote against authorization of the use of force in Iraq. His reward for being right was to get himself run out of the Republican party and elected office.

Republicans fell in line like always - and with a press that was a full out cheerleader for the war - most Democrats were too fearful of hurting themselves politically to oppose.
and therein lies the rub. these folks are up their to do the right thing for us, not what will get them re-elected. the dems who voted, the reps who voted, all share equal blame. i don't care why they voted for it, they voted for it-whether falling in line, or afraid of losing votes-they voted for it.
bush may have asked for the vote, congress gave it to him. checks and balances didn't work, which is the reason for both of them to exist, to keep the other in line.

so, people blame a republican-led congress for allowing a republican president free rein. do we REALLY want a democratic congress and president?? do the checks/balances work better when it's not all one party? i've seen some that think it does, and others who don't. thoughts?
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:05 PM
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What was his responce to the Oklahoma City bombing?

What did you want him to do about it .... declare war on Spain?

Why don't you try and pin Columbine on him while you're at it.
They weren't terrorist attacks sir.
Clinton had all the intel on Al-Qaida, and he didn't do anything because he thought they were harmless.

Seperate Issue.
Hundreds of Thousands have died over in Iraq?
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:06 PM
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I was stating the conclusion based on 40 yrs of experience in business. How does that reflect any predjudice on my part, or reflect badly on me?
i didn't say it did. i said there is sexism, and when you said you treat your wife/dauughter better than many other places, seems to me you're in agreement that in other places women get bad treatment, right?
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:10 PM
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Clear my name to you??...right! I'm not a Catholic..I left that church many years ago because it didn't have the answers! So far you've covered the catholics and muslims,Bravo...do you have a script or is this all you own invention? Gays have an alternative(not mainstream) lifestyle. Strange how the 3% of gays can wag the entire population,huh?
What the gays do isn't my concern,as long as they aren't legislated into benefits and put more of a burden on a system wilting as we speak. The whole gist of your post is the typical POV victim BS that says the Govt is responsible to take care of us. When that happens they also put their hands in your life. Great choice. And I don't remember calling you any specific name. But feel free to be insulted
btw...I'm pretty sure that the mods ruled that you can't use someones' post repeatedly in your posts, not that what I said doesn't stand on its own merit!
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:12 PM
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You dont think that gay partners should be able to get health insurance through company benefits like straight partners can?

You dont think they should be let into the ICU when their partner is sick or dying to be by their side?

You dont think when one partner dies, the other should be able to have the same rights and benefits as straight couples (especially when children are involved)?

Honestly, the republican view of homosexuality is cruel, wrong and sets us and our country back compared most other "western" countries.

John McCain, thank God, isnt bad with his opinion of this subject, sarah palin can kiss my white lesbo ass though about this.

Whether gay "marriage" is ever legal or not, I really could care less. The whole sanctity of marriage crap the repubs pull is laughable, considering Most people who get "married" arent even religious and the fact that more marraiges end in divorce than actually make it. Way to keep up that sanctity of marriage! But gays need to be provided the same basic human rights that straight people have.
i agree with you 100%. all created equal-that's what we're supposed to stand for.
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:13 PM
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Hey howcome when I post things that go against the repubs, no-one says anything. But I post about issues that I agree with the repubs about, and then I'm this huge right wing conservative who gives get out of jail free passes out to every repub????
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:35 PM
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:52 PM
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Clinton had all the intel on Al-Qaida, and he didn't do anything because he thought they were harmless.
Keep telling yourself that...

If you do often enough you might trick yourself into believing it.
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Old 09-12-2008, 06:19 PM
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Keep telling yourself that...

If you do often enough you might trick yourself into believing it.
what a dork....roll another doobie,bro!
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Old 09-12-2008, 06:34 PM
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As any thinking person would surmise, the WMD's were moved to Syria and parts unknown....the entire world believed Saddam had them and wouldn't hesitate to use them

CAN WE GET SOME PHOTOS OR SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? Really,I am serious. If there were WMD moved to another country,then I would like some more proof of it than just saying it. This WMD sell job was the reason he got DEMS to vote to go invade. So, if they actually had WMD( when GEEDUBBYA was selling they had WMD,) I'd like to actually see them some day(or see them being moved around in Syria etc.)
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Old 09-12-2008, 06:49 PM
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CAN WE GET SOME PHOTOS OR SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? Really,I am serious. If there were WMD moved to another country,then I would like some more proof of it than just saying it. This WMD sell job was the reason he got DEMS to vote to go invade. So, if they actually had WMD( when GEEDUBBYA was selling they had WMD,) I'd like to actually see them some day(or see them being moved around in Syria etc.)
of course not.

the intel was wrong. everyone knows it. the administration doesn't even argue the point anymore.
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:47 PM
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WMD's moved?

There is on evidence of that whatsoever...
There were no WMD's as defined by the Bush Adm.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:05 PM
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WMD's moved?

There is on evidence of that whatsoever...
There were no WMD's as defined by the Bush Adm.
Book title is "Disinformation" by Robert Miniter,I think, just one of several out there,not including published reports from Russian and Israeli Intelligence. Sheesh ...you think you'd want to back up your ideas with facts,rather than assumptions. Not just you,P, but others who're so willing to believe the mantra put out by the Left.
And no,Scuds, they don't have film at 11 for you on the movement of WMDs
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:19 PM
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Book title is "Disinformation" by Robert Miniter,I think, just one of several out there,not including published reports from Russian and Israeli Intelligence. Sheesh ...you think you'd want to back up your ideas with facts,rather than assumptions. Not just you,P, but others who're so willing to believe the mantra put out by the Left.
And no,Scuds, they don't have film at 11 for you on the movement of WMDs
"facts"...okay...I will bite. Show us a link to your "facts". Surely they exist.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:34 PM
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Book title is "Disinformation" by Robert Miniter,I think, just one of several out there,not including published reports from Russian and Israeli Intelligence. Sheesh ...you think you'd want to back up your ideas with facts,rather than assumptions. Not just you,P, but others who're so willing to believe the mantra put out by the Left.
And no,Scuds, they don't have film at 11 for you on the movement of WMDs
Well they never told the Bush administration.

This would not be the Right's version of Michael Moore would it...
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:38 PM
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Well they never told the Bush administration.

This would not be the Right's version of Michael Moore would it...
Even the far out right isnt THIS dumb.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:48 PM
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You have a big heart. You cheer for a party that doesnt understand you, doesnt support you and wishes that they could "change" you.
I guess I can't call myself a true Republican even though I am voting Republican (I'm more an Independent), but I understand her, support her and wouldn't ever want to change her. Don't slap labels on people ... it's not very becoming.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:56 PM
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I guess I can't call myself a true Republican even though I am voting Republican (I'm more an Independent), but I understand her, support her and wouldn't ever want to change her. Don't slap labels on people ... it's not very becoming.
Reading is fundamental. No one said that EVERY republican feels that way. But the party as a whole?

Ask your night school teacher.
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:30 PM
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"facts"...okay...I will bite. Show us a link to your "facts". Surely they exist.
I just gave you a book.....Miniter is an accomplished writer. If you have a library card.....
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:31 PM
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Well they never told the Bush administration.

This would not be the Right's version of Michael Moore would it...
I don't BS....read the flap of the book or the summary....God!
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