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Old 10-13-2008, 09:55 PM
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Casino will be overbet, but nobody can say they would be shocked if he won the race. He is very talented and there is a shortage of talent in the older horse and 3yr old division. If Curlin doesn't run, forget about it. Casino could easily win.

i can. i would be shocked if he won.
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:53 AM
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The one eyed man can often be blinded by excessive hair in the face...
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:47 AM
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The one eyed man doesn't have to worry about his eyes being bigger than his stomach.
A 12 eyed man wouldnt be a match for my stomach
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:00 AM
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Maybe I am in the minority and i didn't read Pricci's article but running Zenyatta in the Classic isnt really that bad of an idea is it? I understand they have Tiago but she could sweep to horse of the year if she were to win the race couldnt she? She is proven over the surface unlike the other main contenders so she certainly has the home field advantage. I dont think that her going in the Classic would draw more than 12 extra fans or coverage and I dont think it would have any "effect on the sport" but I would be interested to see how she matches up against the big boys.
They can't bear to watch Tiago get smoked.. What does horse of the year mean? Who cares about this crap do trainers get some type of monetary perk for winning HOY? i
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:42 AM
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They can't bear to watch Tiago get smoked.. What does horse of the year mean? Who cares about this crap do trainers get some type of monetary perk for winning HOY? i
Trainers rarely get monetary perks for anything.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:44 AM
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Trainers rarely get monetary perks for anything.
Shug's driven a nice Range Rover.. Had to set him back a few schenkles
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:06 AM
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:20 AM
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It is possible that Casino Drive will be the biggest underlay in the history of horse racing. Honestly, he should be upwards of 50:1.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:48 AM
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They can't bear to watch Tiago get smoked.. What does horse of the year mean? Who cares about this crap do trainers get some type of monetary perk for winning HOY? i
hoy can add to a horses stud fee-it usually will, altho i think if curlin was to win again he wouldn't see his fee increase, i think he's topped out in that respect. some trainers have gotten a share of a stallion, so yeah, it could pay off if the fee is elevated. then there's getting some publicity for the award, and possibly more owners will send their horses as a result. it sure can't hurt!
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hoy can add to a horses stud fee-it usually will, altho i think if curlin was to win again he wouldn't see his fee increase, i think he's topped out in that respect. some trainers have gotten a share of a stallion, so yeah, it could pay off if the fee is elevated. then there's getting some publicity for the award, and possibly more owners will send their horses as a result. it sure can't hurt!
Yeah bro Zenyatta winning Horse of the Year would be a huge plus to her stud value. Chuck mentioned in the post above that running Zenyatta in the Classic could get HER HOY..
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:04 PM
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It is possible that Casino Drive will be the biggest underlay in the history of horse racing. Honestly, he should be upwards of 50:1.
He's at least 1000 times more likely a winner than that cheap claimer that tried the BC Turf a number of years ago, that went off at surprisingly low odds.
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:42 PM
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It is possible that Casino Drive will be the biggest underlay in the history of horse racing. Honestly, he should be upwards of 50:1.
I was thinking 45/1
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:43 PM
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He's at least 1000 times more likely a winner than that cheap claimer that tried the BC Turf a number of years ago, that went off at surprisingly low odds.
Miesques Approval? Ask Byk about that one
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:45 PM
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Miesques Approval? Ask Byk about that one
lol, yeah, not quite.

What the hell was that horse named? I think he was from New Mexico.
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:07 PM
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lol, yeah, not quite.

What the hell was that horse named? I think he was from New Mexico.
Ricks Natural Star?
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:52 PM
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I could care less who runs and who doesn't. I will watch but will wager on Pha pk, Mnr, Haw,and all the other cheap clm and alw racing,tracks that I make money at. Betting these stakes races anytime, is a losing proposition, over the long run. No one can really throw out any horse and make a bet that the odds are in your favor by simple elimanation, and a few real contenders left at a decent price. When you bet and hit a long price you are guessing with these top horses. Every year the pay-offs are huge and the handicapping can't figure this out, if it could then they would'nt paid this well, do yourself a favor and do the doable. Watch enjoy but don't bet like the losers.
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:22 PM
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he won the first part of the race.
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:26 PM
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Yeah bro Zenyatta winning Horse of the Year would be a huge plus to her stud value. Chuck mentioned in the post above that running Zenyatta in the Classic could get HER HOY..
oh, sorry sis, i was replying to what i read from you about tiago. sorry i didn't go back up far enough...
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:27 PM
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think this could be moved to the sticky.. lady marian is scheduled i think, but i think she'll need soft ground to be seen at her best. I think most Nayefs need a bit of cut...
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:31 PM
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I completely disagree. That said, my betting this year will be a lot less than usual, because of surface. But the Breeders Cup and other big days are usually prime days to find a lot of value.
Then you are one of the very few exceptions,in horseracing, betting. I track picks on this site along with Byk's for my own info to get an edge, and see what others are betting and why. I have found most do poorly on higher purse and class races. Just a fact, and have seen most take losses on the multi-race bets when all is added up over period of time. Track the selections and you'll see what i mean.
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