well its been a month

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

what is the opinion of gulfstream so far.. im very pleased with the cards being put up.its like a new track comparing the depth of the fields most every day..to last years crap.

[Zaf]

Very good meet so far

[ateamstupid]

I like what they've done to the turf course. It plays like real grass now instead of the carpet nonsense they have out west (the way it has played the last few years). Even though the scores have eluded me, I like the meet they've put on. Where quality is lacking, there's quantity, and of course not having to worry about a sloppy track or off-the-turf handicapping is nice.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Speed bias on the main LAST WEEKEND...FK that place. Not surprised Wesley Ward moved down there. Wish he would stay down there. Never come back. That's just my opinion. Notice, I didn't respond to someone else's opinion. I don't know why people can't just give their opinion. You don't have to come run in and respond to someone else's opinion. It's o.k. if people don't agree.

[docicu3]

Potential for huge scores with logical horses have been there daily.....love the place this year.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Best it's been in recent years, cutting back to five racing days a week helps.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Best it's been in recent years, cutting back to five racing days a week helps.

That's the key.


Less races / larger, more competitive fields.


Now we need fewer tracks PLUS less races and racing across the board would be better for the bettor.

[Danzig]

http://www.drf.com/news/article/101298.html

[-BT-]

speed holds on the lawn, hard time for closer to run down the rabbits


i guess the main is pretty solid, haven't seen any deep closers since kisses

-bt-

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by -BT-

speed holds on the lawn, hard time for closer to run down the rabbits


i guess the main is pretty solid, haven't seen any deep closers since kisses

-bt-

Its a good thing and a bad thing. For me, a good thing cause I love to play logical shots at 10-1 or higher on the lawn who have early speed that may hold.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

it would be pretty dull around here if everyone just gave their opinion with no discussion, don't ya think?

Well(Mr. Dr. Professor, sir,) It depends on the subject at hand. If it's a new subject, then I agree. However, this is not a new subject(whether one likes or dislikes this track's main track.) The arguments are well known.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Actually the thread had nothing to do with the main track. You brought that up. Why do you think the track was speed biased last weekend. Because the results from last weekend don't really support that opinion.

That's a terrific question. I don't recall there being any type of bias at all. Don't tell me it's because Delightful Kiss couldn't get there in the SM Classic.

NT

[jwkniska]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I actually think it's been pretty fair all meet.

from the races I've seen, been fair not only to speed/closer, but pretty fair with gate position too.

[31lengths]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

what is the opinion of gulfstream so far.. im very pleased with the cards being put up.its like a new track comparing the depth of the fields most every day..to last years crap.

You should come on down this weekend.

[Travis Stone]

The buzz was Fair Grounds was on its way up, and Gulfstream on its way down. A few unfortunate situations at FG such as the quarantine combined with a better racing program at Gulfstream Park have axed such predictions.

I've said it before, but Doug Bredar, who was our racing secretary at LAD the past two years, and helped LAD be one of just a few tracks to increase handle last year, is doing a tremendous job. He told me he was going to bring back "a lot of the things that worked" and he's so far succeeded.

As for FG... one more "in defense of" post... but their new track super is Brian Jabelman, and he too works at LAD. Our track has been in tip-top shape since he came down and re-worked it. He says FG needs some long-term work, more than he can fix overnight. He knows what he's doing, and the breakdown talk out of NO is not related to his skill level, which is top notch.

Interestingly, I asked him about the speed/rail bias which can often appear at LAD and he said the track's banking will never allow him or any super to completely avoid. I found that interesting.

Okay, I apologize for the LAD rant!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

The buzz was Fair Grounds was on its way up, and Gulfstream on its way down. A few unfortunate situations at FG such as the quarantine combined with a better racing program at Gulfstream Park have axed such predictions.

I've said it before, but Doug Bredar, who was our racing secretary at LAD the past two years, and helped LAD be one of just a few tracks to increase handle last year, is doing a tremendous job. He told me he was going to bring back "a lot of the things that worked" and he's so far succeeded.

As for FG... one more "in defense of" post... but their new track super is Brian Jabelman, and he too works at LAD. Our track has been in tip-top shape since he came down and re-worked it. He says FG needs some long-term work, more than he can fix overnight. He knows what he's doing, and the breakdown talk out of NO is not related to his skill level, which is top notch.

Interestingly, I asked him about the speed/rail bias which can often appear at LAD and he said the track's banking will never allow him or any super to completely avoid. I found that interesting.

Okay, I apologize for the LAD rant!

I'm not sure what could be done, but the FG "Turf" course is hardly a Turf Course.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm not sure what could be done, but the FG "Turf" course is hardly a Turf Course.

Turf courses are tricky, it's just like our lawn. Replacing and re-working a dirt course is far "easier" and less expensive than grass.

I'm not too familiar with the details of the FG turf, but Brian arrived in NO less than one month ago, so I'm sure he's made a list of things to improve.

[Bigsmc]

FG is sand based. While it drains tremendously after heavy rains, it doesn't seem as hearty with use.

GP and Calder have similar issues. Their turf just doesn't stand up to a lot of use.

Calder's gets needed breaks because of the incessant So. FL. thunderstorms in the summer causing at least a couple off the turf days each week. While GP's turf is given breaks because it is very wide and has several rail settings. It too will be broken down pretty good with a lot of sand being kicked up by the end of the meet.

Keeneland's turf is sand based too, pre-poly, they used to leave almost everything on the turf because it drained so well. It didn't suffer the breakdown of the surface the others show because of the shortness of the meets.

Disclaimer: I am not a track superintendant, but I play one at home with my sand based lawn.

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Potential for huge scores with logical horses have been there daily.....love the place this year.

You will be missed here

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

You will be missed here

huh? what did i miss here? doc is not around?