3/7 (SA): SA H. (Gr. I); Kilroe (Gr. I); SA Oaks (Gr. I); Honest Lady (L)

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by brockguy

am i missing something with the support for Zambezi Sun. He has just been the most frustrating horse over the past 2 years - even more so than Champs Elysees.

i don't get it either. just watch the replay of his last race.

[Danzig]

i don't get ZS either. gotta think einstein is the class of the field.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i don't get it either. just watch the replay of his last race.

I feel if I use the "I wouldnt back him with counterfeit" line, it'll come back to bite me..

Matto Mondo for me with Champs and Dansant to follow him home. Dansant isnt actually that bad - ignore his last run and he has a strong enough profile (ratings wise) and should be very much at home on the surface which cant be said for the rest!

[Merlinsky]

I gotta say, I'm rooting for Stardom Bound and all but Miss Silver Brook is an elegant lady in that paddock. I mean she sure looks lovely on the video feed.

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't get ZS either. gotta think einstein is the class of the field.

I agree.
I kinda dont get it.

Maybe just not knowing what he will do on synth.
His work on the stuff was not impressive, but what exactly
were they hoping to get out of it... dont know.
He has run well on on grass and dirt so.... what is the deal?

[Danzig]

i thought they said he seemed to like it ok? guess we'll see.

[Danzig]

going with hooh why for the upset this afternoon...

[Danzig]

goodness, what a finish

Mike Smith trying to deal out some coronaries.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Mike Smith trying to deal out some coronaries.

i'm thinking stardom bound doesn't enjoy the luxury of being a much better filly anymore; i think her peers have caught up to her.

[CSC]

I don't know what it is with Mike Smith with fillies & mares, he's ridden some great one's throughout his career. Saying that, that was not a good ride on Stardom Bound. That horse had every excuse to lose with that trip.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brockguy

I feel if I use the "I wouldnt back him with counterfeit" line, it'll come back to bite me..

Matto Mondo for me with Champs and Dansant to follow him home. Dansant isnt actually that bad - ignore his last run and he has a strong enough profile (ratings wise) and should be very much at home on the surface which cant be said for the rest!

Such an American hater!!

Originally Posted by CSC

I don't know what it is with Mike Smith with fillies & mares, he's ridden some great one's throughout his career. Saying that, that was not a good ride on Stardom Bound. That horse had every excuse to lose with that trip.

I did not really see the entire trip.
The place horse came out pretty bad there
on Smith.

[Merlinsky]

They do know they're supposed to run straight right? Seriously what are they trying to do to my ticker?

Is it fair to assume Stardom Bound is just not improving as much as her peers or is it a function of her running style that sometimes her races'll give you a pucker factor?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

They do know they're supposed to run straight right? Seriously what are they trying to do to my ticker?

Is it fair to assume Stardom Bound is just not improving as much as her peers or is it a function of her running style that sometimes her races'll give you a pucker factor?

deep closers can be fun to watch, but as you said, they can give you some anxious moments as well.
but her last two, imo, are nothing like what she was doing last fall. i think she's exhibited the same precocity as her sire and dam and that her peers will be notching some wins on her within the next race or two. i think the gap has closed considerably.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by CSC

I don't know what it is with Mike Smith with fillies & mares, he's ridden some great one's throughout his career. Saying that, that was not a good ride on Stardom Bound. That horse had every excuse to lose with that trip.

He clearly expected her to have much more than she showed going into the turn... I'd expect them to bring her back softly - hate to make a decision about the Derby off one effort, but I wouldn't touch her at this point if she comes out of the race ok

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I don't see what was wrong with the ride or how it was any different than any of the other ones he's given her.

Last early, out in the clear on the backstretch, and circle the field.

I guess he got caught a little wider than usual because the field stacked up some .. but the wider the better on these synthetics.

That track has been a little more kind to speed the last 10 days... but I'd still rather be 8 wide and have the best late speed in the field than be a early speed type.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

He clearly expected her to have much more than she showed going into the turn... I'd expect them to bring her back softly - hate to make a decision about the Derby off one effort, but I wouldn't touch her at this point if she comes out of the race ok

from the interview i heard, she will be continuing vs females.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I did not really see the entire trip.
The place horse came out pretty bad there
on Smith.

Well I have to retract abit, it wasn't as bad as I first thought, saved ground around the first turn and very wide on the final turn. A lesser horse wouldn't have won, but when you have the best horse I guess you can afford to lose abit of ground. Abit being the operative word...Very close to losing on the heavy favorite giving up that much ground.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't see what was wrong with the ride or how it was any different than any of the other ones he's given her.

Last early, out in the clear on the backstretch, and circle the field.

I guess he got caught a little wider than usual because the field stacked up some .. but the wider the better on these synthetics.

That track has been a little more kind to speed the last 10 days... but I'd still rather be 8 wide and have the best late speed in the field than be a early speed type.

it was his typical ride on her, and a typical run from her-the difference is the competition is doing better now than they had in races' past imo.