4/4 (AQU): Wood (G1); Carter (G1); Bay Shore (G3); Excelsior (G3)

[sumitas]

Some great races and some great horses in the Wood and Carter . A classic Wood for sure .

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Mike

I'll bet the Bay Shore and Excelsior only:Yano and Giant Moon

Hope you ended up playing Giant Moon. Yano ran well too.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Mike

Nope, I passed

Sorry for leading you astray.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Giant Moon has next to no chance.

I now have cracked your code

"Next to no chance", I'll look forward to you using that precise phrase in your evaluation of the Derby field

[Bobby Fischer]

[saracasm]Oh boy, I'm anxiously awaiting the beyers for the Wood.[/saracasm]

[Bobby Fischer]

who is Cardus ?

[Indian Charlie]

Imperial Council is this years version of Saarland.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Sorry for leading you astray.

Andy.. Question for you... The Wood went off before the Illinois derby completed. Is there a reason they couldn't wait 1 minute to start the Wood ?

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Mike

Nope, I passed

Very nice composure there Mike.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by jms62

Andy.. Question for you... The Wood went off before the Illinois derby completed. Is there a reason they couldn't wait 1 minute to start the Wood ?

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I believe the Illinois Derby was scheduled for 4:15. I guess they started late.

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Imperial Council is this years version of Saarland.

or Theregoesimperialcouncil

[jms62]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I believe the Illinois Derby was scheduled for 4:15. I guess they started late.

They did, am I too naive to think that someone could monitor that at AQU and since the delay wasn't all that long, wait so the fans could enjoy both races. Racing continues to treat its fans like it is 1961 and they are the only game in town for our gambling dollar.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by jms62

They did, am I too naive to think that someone could monitor that at AQU and since the delay wasn't all that long, wait so the fans could enjoy both races. Racing continues to treat its fans like it is 1961 and they are the only game in town for our gambling dollar.

Has it occurred to you that we moved our post originally to allow people to see both races?

Sorry, but I don't think we behave as you suggest. I am sory if Hawthorne did not go off at their scheduled post time but I'm not sure how that can be blamed on us.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Has it occurred to you that we moved our post originally to allow people to see both races?

Sorry, but I don't think we behave as you suggest. I am sory if Hawthorne did not go off at their scheduled post time but I'm not sure how that can be blamed on us.

Of course it is not your problem but your response really reiterates my point. The fans are an afterthought in racing. AQU could have waited 1 stinking minute but since it wasn't thier problem they didn't.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by jms62

Of course it is not your problem but your response really reiterates my point. The fans are an afterthought in racing. AQU could have waited 1 stinking minute but since it wasn't thier problem they didn't.

You're preposterous.. Honestly, this is a new level of ridiculous. What are the tracks supposed to do? Here was the stakes schedule yesterday between 5-6pm.

5:05 (KEE) Ashland (Gr. I)
5:14 (HAW) IL Derby
5:19 (AQU) Wood Memorial (Gr. I)
5:24 (GP) Skip Away
5:40 (SA) Santa Anita Derby (Gr. I)
5:51 (AQU) Carter H. (Gr. I)
5:57 (OP) Apple Blossom (Gr. I)

If someone fell off schedule, the other tracks are supposed to be monitoring it and change all of the starts? And then that overlaps some other race elsewhere... Hawthorne had ONE stake to get off yesterday and they were late. But that's NYRA or "Racing's" fault because they look for ways to mistreat the players and fans.

Things happen too when you're dealing with animals. Shoe adjustments, paddock incidents, etc. You also realize that there are OTB and the racing networks broadcasts that are working off the SCHEDULED start times? IN FACT, the job done balancing the action has been quite remarkable the last several weeks as big race after big race went off in succession.

[Danzig]

aqu made an effort to accomodate fans. your ire might be better directed towards hawthorne, who presumably did not.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Kasept

You're preposterous.. Honestly, this is a new level of ridiculous. What are the tracks supposed to do? Here was the stakes schedule yesterday between 5-6pm.

5:05 (KEE) Ashland (Gr. I)
5:14 (HAW) IL Derby
5:19 (AQU) Wood Memorial (Gr. I)
5:24 (GP) Skip Away
5:40 (SA) Santa Anita Derby (Gr. I)
5:51 (AQU) Carter H. (Gr. I)
5:57 (OP) Apple Blossom (Gr. I)

If someone fell off schedule, the other tracks are supposed to be monitoring it and change all of the starts? And then that overlaps some other race elsewhere... Hawthorne had ONE stake to get off yesterday and they were late. But that's NYRA or "Racing's" fault because they look for ways to mistreat the players and fans.

Things happen too when you're dealing with animals. Shoe adjustments, paddock incidents, etc. You also realize that there are OTB and the racing networks broadcasts that are working off the SCHEDULED start times? IN FACT, the job done balancing the action has been quite remarkable the last several weeks as big race after big race went off in succession.

Steve... I am talking about Derby preps here not all races. You are absolultey 100% correct. I am beyond preposterous to think that tracks could monitor other MAJOR derby preps and delay thier post time by an additional 1 minute. What was I thinking?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Kasept

You're preposterous.. Honestly, this is a new level of ridiculous. What are the tracks supposed to do? Here was the stakes schedule yesterday between 5-6pm.

5:05 (KEE) Ashland (Gr. I)
5:14 (HAW) IL Derby
5:19 (AQU) Wood Memorial (Gr. I)
5:24 (GP) Skip Away
5:40 (SA) Santa Anita Derby (Gr. I)
5:51 (AQU) Carter H. (Gr. I)
5:57 (OP) Apple Blossom (Gr. I)

If someone fell off schedule, the other tracks are supposed to be monitoring it and change all of the starts? And then that overlaps some other race elsewhere... Hawthorne had ONE stake to get off yesterday and they were late. But that's NYRA or "Racing's" fault because they look for ways to mistreat the players and fans.

Things happen too when you're dealing with animals. Shoe adjustments, paddock incidents, etc. You also realize that there are OTB and the racing networks broadcasts that are working off the SCHEDULED start times? IN FACT, the job done balancing the action has been quite remarkable the last several weeks as big race after big race went off in succession.

Valid points, but I found it difficult to watch each race yesterday as a bettor. The Wood was only viewable live on the internet, and the Illinois Derby and Wood were on top of each other.

I am admittedly ignorant when it comes to broadcast rights and signal ownership, but it seems to me that someone could have oragnized a national telecast that showded all three Derby preps and maybe even the Ashland LIVE with 10 minutes or so in between.

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by justindew

Valid points, but I found it difficult to watch each race yesterday as a bettor. The Wood was only viewable live on the internet, and the Illinois Derby and Wood were on top of each other.

I am admittedly ignorant when it comes to broadcast rights and signal ownership, but it seems to me that someone could have oragnized a national telecast that showded all three Derby preps and maybe even the Ashland LIVE with 10 minutes or so in between.

What??? Show more racing and reduce all that babble?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by jms62

Steve... I am talking about Derby preps here not all races. You are absolultey 100% correct. I am beyond preposterous to think that tracks could monitor other MAJOR derby preps and delay thier post time by an additional 1 minute. What was I thinking?

I don't get it. I watched the start of the IL Derby till they were on the backstretch, caught the start of the Wood and then watched the Illinois end and then back to the Wood. And then watched the replays. How does it diminish the experience? 15 seconds after each race is over you can watch the thing 10,000 times on computer or race replay or right on the feed from the track. What's the difference? I was interested in races from Gulfstream and elsewhere that were going at the same time... I watched them later. You have to see it live or somehow the result is going to be different? Hawthorne got off late. It happens. Had there been a National tie-in broadcast, they could have balanced the starts differently. Otherwise, EVERYONE STICKS TO THEIR SCHEDULE to make it most easy to accomodate widely at OTB's and on broadcasting entities.