4/11 (KEE): Blue Grass; Jenny Wiley; Commonweath; Shakertown

[Alan07]

6th (3:40) Shakertown S. (G3)

5 1/2 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Hellvelyn (GB) Garcia Alan 118 LA
2 Tenkiller Lake Castanon J L 118 L
3 Hewitts Desormeaux K J 118 LA
4 Mr. Nightlinger Theriot H J II 118 L
5 Cannonball Douglas R R 118 L
6 Due Date Bridgmohan S X 118 LA
7 Rollers Prado E S 118 LA
8 Fort Prado Leparoux J R 118 LA
9 Chamberlain Bridge Gomez G K 121 L
10 Heros Reward Castellano J J 118 LA
11 Incriminate Mena M 118 LA
12 Crowned General Borel C H 118 LA
AE Godolphin Gray Mernagh D 118 L
AE Stradivinsky Albarado R J 118 L



7th (4:11) Commonwealth S. (G2)

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Eternal Star Coa E M 118 L
2 Keep Laughing Garcia Alan 118 LA
3 Silver Edition Douglas R R 118 L
4 My Pal Charlie Leparoux J R 122 LA
5 Success Success Borel C H 118 LA
6 Storm Treasure Bridgmohan S X 118 LA
7 Ravalo Velazquez J R 118 L
8 Rebellion (GB) Prado E S 118 LA



8th (4:42) Jenny Wiley S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 I Lost My Choo Prado E S 119 L
2 Lady Carlock Albarado R J 119 L
3 Forever Together Leparoux J R 123 LA
4 Ballymore Lady Desormeaux K J 119 LA
5 Rustic Flame (IRE) Lanerie C J 117 LA
6 Kiss With a Twist Mena M 117 LA
7 Backseat Rhythm Coa E M 119 LA
8 Rutherienne Garcia Alan 117 L
9 Visit (GB) Gomez G K 117 LA



9th (5:15) Toyota Blue Grass S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Patena Albarado R J 123 L (10-1)
2 Join in the Dance Velazquez J R 123 LA (10-1)
3 Theregoesjojo Borel C H 123 LA (7-2)
4 Cliffy's Future Castanon J L 123 LA (20-1)
5 Mafaaz (GB) Hills R 123 (12-1)
6 Terrain Leparoux J R 123 LA (6-1)
7 Loch Dubh Theriot H J II 123 Blk-On LA (50-1)
8 General Quarters Coa E M 123 L (15-1)
9 Charitable Man Garcia Alan 123 LA (4-1)
10 Hold Me Back Desormeaux K J 123 LA (3-1)
11 Massone Gomez G K 123 L (12-1)

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Alan07

1. Patena (10-1)
2. Join In The Dance (10-1)
3. Theregoesjojo (7-2)
4. Cliffy's Future (20-1)
5. Mafaaz (12-1)
6. Terrain (6-1)
7. Lock Dubh (50-1)
8. General Quarters (15-1)
9. Charitable Man (4-1)
10. Hold Me Back (3-1)
11. Massone (12-1)

This race makes me think of 2008.

[jwkniska]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Interesting ML on Charitable Man. It feels like he'll end up being the favorite. I know he was very good last year. But how can you take such a short price on a horse trying 2 turns and a new surface for the first time, while making his first start in 6 months?

simple. you can't!

[brockguy]

How far does Mafaaz win by?

Or how about, what denotes a decent enough performance here to take a shot at the big one!?

[blackthroatedwind]

The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.

[TheSpyder]

I like Cowbow Cal. What do you think?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.

[Sightseek]

Nice field in the Wiley.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Nice field in the Wiley.

Return of the champ! Great card overall.

Rollers back on a week rest in the Shakertown?? Really?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by philcski

Return of the champ! Great card overall.

Rollers back on a week rest in the Shakertown?? Really?

He's a mighty NY bred.

[blackthroatedwind]

It's hard to imagine a race with less pace than the Jenny Wiley.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.

A dollar and a dream.

[Mike]

What do people think of Massone? He was there close to Chocolate Candy in the El Camino Real, and was one and a half lengths back of I want Revenge last October as maidens

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.

is he owned by paul reddam?

[booner]

Originally Posted by philcski

Return of the champ! Great card overall.

Rollers back on a week rest in the Shakertown?? Really?

I like the card, too. Looking forward to being there Saturday.

Did a double-take on Rollers myself. Has Tagg turned horses around this quick in the past?

Like My Pal Charlie turning back to 7 furlongs. I think he is a big threat in this one.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.

I totally agree with you. I am amazed that Charitable Man has been able to work steadily since he's been back without missing a single work. That said you never know which is the excitement of this sport. I just can't imagine him finishing better than 5th or 6th. But I am rooting for him.
Perhaps a Preakness run may be more in the offing which is in 5 weeks. There is some sense that horses recover a bit quicker off the poly but, as Kiaran said on Byk's show, if he pulls this off they should bronze him in the infield. He's a good horseman, he knows CM's potential as well as the difficulty inherent in what he is trying to do.
And please say on some media outlet that Charitable Man doesn't belong in the race. I've heard you say that a couple of times with Kiaran's horses at A and it seems like they run alot harder.

That said, who do you like? I find it incredibly difficult to pull these horses apart and come to a conclusion that doesn't include 6 of them.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Interesting ML on Charitable Man. It feels like he'll end up being the favorite. I know he was very good last year. But how can you take such a short price on a horse trying 2 turns and a new surface for the first time, while making his first start in 6 months?

I really can't believe he'll get bet down that much. There is too much that he will have to overcome here. I wonder how they put that ML together?

[Sightseek]

This is pretty neat, on the Blue Grass Stakes website you can see all of the charts dating back to 1937.

http://ww2.keeneland.com/bluegrassst...px?Page=Charts

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's hard to imagine a race with less pace than the Jenny Wiley.

True... I think Kiss with a twist will be out front and Forever together will be stalking her closely.
That being said, its a crapshoot what the jocks will do after they get told by every trainer to go because there is no speed.

[nomad]

1 Patena no chance
2 Join in the Dance dangerous speed a user
3 Theregoesjojo on the decline
4 Cliffys Future can't run with these
5 Mafaaz unknown factor, a lot to ask
6 Terrain too slow
7 Loch Dubin no
8 General Quarters not impossible but see #3
9 Charitable Man too much to ask
10 Hold me Back could be tough, Desormeax sticks with him
11 Massone the winner with Gomez

Prediction 11-10-3-2

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Mike

What do people think of Massone? He was there close to Chocolate Candy in the El Camino Real, and was one and a half lengths back of I want Revenge last October as maidens

The I Want Revenge form is irrelevant, but the Chocolate Candy form is worth noting.
He doesn't have a lot of talent, but at least he handles the surface and runs a little late. He has the best jockey.
I don't see him as one of likely winners here.
The public are going to have to really bet some of the horses that I am tossing, in order for there to be enough value for me to use this lackluster runner, - and they may.