Oaks/Derby Double

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I always seem to hit this bet and think it goes over looked as a great payday wager that is usually not too hard. The last two were actually easy and still paid very well. Off we go.

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1,6 with 3,6,12,13

Why not...it still paid with Rags/SS $23.80 and it still paid with PS/Big Brown $37.80 and $890.20 with Barbaro/Lemons Forever??

dont forget the Oaks-woodford-derby Pick3, a new bet this year.

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Everyone gets Einstein for the woodford.

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He's never been "very beatable". Pitts says he is kicking the walls down! He might get beat but if you got to take a stand somewhere I stand with Einstein.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'd never tell someone how to spend their money, but in my opinion you are much better off trying to beat Einstein than including the Lukas filly in the Oaks that has absolutely no shot. Since when did Einstein become so unbeatable?

I agree regarding Einstein, he beat Commentator in the Clark who is very much on the downside of his career as shown by his performane in the CT race, and he won a weak gr.1 race out west that basically illustrates how weak the older division is, for his projected odds he won't pack much punch. Obcourse he can win but isn't this game about beating obvious underlaid choices?

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Never said unbeatable. Just not "very beatable". I am a big Einstein fan. Worked out last year. Who's gonna beat him?

RE the Oaks...I also thought that Lemon's Forever did not have a shot, but included her(for my wife) and cashed that double with Barbaro 2x. Tweeters last race looked good to me and RA well, you never know...they have to make it around the track first.

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Originally Posted by CSC

I agree regarding Einstein, he beat Commentator in the Clark who is very much on the downside of his career as shown by his performane in the CT race, and he won a weak gr.1 race out west that basically illustrates how weak the older division is, for his projected odds he won't pack much punch. Obcourse he can win but isn't this game about beating obvious underlaid choices?

I thought it was about winning money and being right. I like debate though and have an open mind. I try to beat many choices throughout my time, just think the best horse usually wins.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I can't believe I am actually saying this out loud, but I think the race is between Court Vision and Cowboy Cal and will probably try and get through with those two.

LOL. It's the PG1985 Derby exacta a year later.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I can't believe I am actually saying this out loud, but I think the race is between Court Vision and Cowboy Cal and will probably try and get through with those two.

Court Vision looks good coming in. Good luck with that. How about the rest of the PK-3?

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If it stays wet there, Proudinsky does become my top choice.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I can't believe I am actually saying this out loud, but I think the race is between Court Vision and Cowboy Cal and will probably try and get through with those two.

oh
my
god

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I thought it was about winning money and being right. I like debate though and have an open mind. I try to beat many choices throughout my time, just think the best horse usually wins.

I'll take most money over most winners anyday.

[hockey2315]

Zambezi Sun looks interesting to me. . . I think you can excuse his first two in the states and his European form trounces these. . . Just not sure about the distance. . .

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Originally Posted by CSC

I'll take most money over most winners anyday.

Hard to have one without the others. "Betting to place is like kissing your sister, betting to show is like kissing your brother."

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Zambesi Sun has been a major dissapointment since coming over, he should be a great price assuming Frankel doesn't scratch him, maybe he's finally figured him out. I think he's interesting.

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by arizonadave[B

]dont forget the Oaks-woodford-derby Pick3, a new bet this year[/b].

Where is that bet availible at? Where's the best place to access the wagering menu? I've looked at KD.com not finding it yet.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Maybe Cowboy Cal is a little reach, but isn't he better on turf? Who am I missing?

I don't think it's a reach at all. I actually like him in here- I was just laughing at the fact taht its the PG1985 exacta

[TheSpyder]

I agree, think he's sitting on a big race.

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Zambezi Sun looks interesting to me. . . I think you can excuse his first two in the states and his European form trounces these. . . Just not sure about the distance. . .

[Sightseek]

^^^ PG's biggest fan.