What is C BROWN UP TO?

[the_fat_man]

Takes Silver Timber from the best turf sprint trainer in the country for $20K. The same ST that just couldn't fire in the lane all of last year. Under Brown, ST wipes out the field last out and, today, he duels with the chalk early and draws off in the stake.

Way to go, Chad.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Takes Silver Timber from the best turf sprint trainer in the country for $20K. The same ST that just couldn't fire in the lane all of last year. Under Brown, ST wipes out the field last out and, today, he duels with the chalk early and draws off in the stake.

Way to go, Chad.

Could be different shoes? Or maybe acupuncture

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Takes Silver Timber from the best turf sprint trainer in the country for $20K. The same ST that just couldn't fire in the lane all of last year. Under Brown, ST wipes out the field last out and, today, he duels with the chalk early and draws off in the stake.

Way to go, Chad.

A personal attack like this could cost you in the long run fatman, best if Steve took this crap off his web site. Let the detetion barns do their job buddy.

[the_fat_man]

It's just my observation. Why would C Brown or anyone else care what I have to say?

In the meantime, fire up some replays of Silver Timber's races last (and early this) year and check him out in the lane for yourself. You might be the one needing to retract his statement after that. You never know.

[Gander]

That was an awful field today. Just dreadful that that went down as a Graded stakes. The quality was nothing better than a 75K optional claimer. Capuano never wins in NY. Somebody had to win, why not the 2nd choice? Just an utter mess of the Jaipur.

[turf fan]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Takes Silver Timber from the best turf sprint trainer in the country for $20K. The same ST that just couldn't fire in the lane all of last year. Under Brown, ST wipes out the field last out and, today, he duels with the chalk early and draws off in the stake.

Way to go, Chad.

Let me tell you, Chad Brown is the most diligent trainer I have been fortunate to have horses with. He is honest and straight forward. I'm not sure why you claim LR is the best turf sprint trainer in the country. Yes, she has won her share in NY, but having been around both barns, there is no comparison!
Enough said!!

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by MisterB

A personal attack like this could cost you in the long run fatman, best if Steve took this crap off his web site. Let the detetion barns do their job buddy.

Why is this a personal attack?
These questions are the biggest part of this sport.
I think its a very valid ?..

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Why is this a personal attack?
These questions are the biggest part of this sport.
I think its a very valid ?..

the original post was edited

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by turf fan

Let me tell you, Chad Brown is the most diligent trainer I have been fortunate to have horses with. He is honest and straight forward. I'm not sure why you claim LR is the best turf sprint trainer in the country. Yes, she has won her share in NY, but having been around both barns, there is no comparison!
Enough said!!

Your point, then, is that Brown is better with turf sprinters than Rice?

What do you guys think, I spend my days reading the SHEETS and STATS on Formulator?

Where's the outrage when Wolfson is accused of juicing? (Which happens just about every other week here.)

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by turf fan

Let me tell you, Chad Brown is the most diligent trainer I have been fortunate to have horses with. He is honest and straight forward. I'm not sure why you claim LR is the best turf sprint trainer in the country. Yes, she has won her share in NY, but having been around both barns, there is no comparison!
Enough said!!

Congrats to Chad Brown he moved up a 20k claimer to a G3 winner. Do you think it was shoes, some chiropractic spinal sheat, gastrogard, or just waiting till the banamine kicked in before the 4f breeze.. Whatever the miracle, perhaps we should contact the Pope to see if this special horse can be cannonized.. St. Silver... HI HO

Fat Man I am with you on this one

[turf fan]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Your point, then, is that Brown is better with turf sprinters than Rice?

What do you guys think, I spend my days reading the SHEETS and STATS on Formulator?

Where's the outrage when Wolfson is accused of juicing? (Which happens just about every other week here.)

No! My point is CB runs a better operation than LR in my opinion! Check win stats, not turf sprints. CB will be the first to tell you that turf sprints are not his speciality. LR wins with very few starters that are not sprinters. CB wins with all types.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by turf fan

No! My point is CB runs a better operation than LR in my opinion! Check win stats, not turf sprints. CB will be the first to tell you that turf sprints are not his speciality. LR wins with very few starters that are not sprinters. CB wins with all types.

You're making my point. You improve a horse taken from a specialist, when you're not a specialist in that area, and you're really doing something, wouldn't you think?.

Latest figures I have for the year (not including today) per BRIS:

Brown

105 starters 22% winners

Rice

171 starters 25% winners


Hmmmm

more starters, higher win %

But I'll take your word for it that Brown 'runs a better operation'.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by turf fan

No! My point is CB runs a better operation than LR in my opinion! Check win stats, not turf sprints. CB will be the first to tell you that turf sprints are not his speciality. LR wins with very few starters that are not sprinters. CB wins with all types.

What barn # is CB? And what flavor is the Kool Aid? Seriously who doubts the guy is a good horseman? But please understand that medication and its use is responsible for today's G3 win. This is not a good horse, in fact he is a tried and true plain ole race horse. He isn't nor should have he ever been considered a stakes winning animal.

[freddymo]

CB wins with all types.

CB medicates all types

[MisterB]

At least you edited your thread title fatman.

I don't think you get it bro, CCB took a horse from a great trainer, isn't that a good claim???????????/

Lets wait for the tox report

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Takes Silver Timber from the best turf sprint trainer in the country for $20K. The same ST that just couldn't fire in the lane all of last year. Under Brown, ST wipes out the field last out and, today, he duels with the chalk early and draws off in the stake.

Way to go, Chad.

Mr. Dubb may differ my friend

[chucklestheclown]

You guys did not see this coming in the PPs? For shame...

[Gaelic Storm]

Originally Posted by freddymo

What barn # is CB? And what flavor is the Kool Aid? Seriously who doubts the guy is a good horseman? But please understand that medication and its use is responsible for today's G3 win. This is not a good horse, in fact he is a tried and true plain ole race horse. He isn't nor should have he ever been considered a stakes winning animal.

Didn't Silver Timber set track record at 5 1/2 on the turf at Saratoga?

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by freddymo

What barn # is CB? And what flavor is the Kool Aid? Seriously who doubts the guy is a good horseman? But please understand that medication and its use is responsible for today's G3 win. This is not a good horse, in fact he is a tried and true plain ole race horse. He isn't nor should have he ever been considered a stakes winning animal.

I agree, it was the drugs

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by MisterB

At least you edited your thread title fatman.

I don't think you get it bro, CCB took a horse from a great trainer, isn't that a good claim???????????/

Lets wait for the tox report

That would be the Bossman who edited it.