Jockey Club Gold Cup 2009

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by CSC

Cribbed from Grening's report.

ELMONT, N.Y. -- Travers first- and third-place finishers Summer Bird and Quality Road completed preparations for their rematch in next Saturday's $750,000 Jockey Club Gold Cup here by putting in five-furlong workouts Saturday morning over Belmont Park's main track.

A field of six or seven is shaping up for the Gold Cup, one of five Grade 1 stakes on Saturday's program. Others pointing to the race include Dry Martini, Macho Again, Sette E Mezzo, and Tizway. Asiatic Boy is possible.

That field is reminiscent of the one that lined up for the 1993 JCGC. Summer Bird will be playing Colonial Affair's role, while Quality Road will have to do double duty and play both Diazo and Miner's Mark.

Macho Again in a cameo as De Roche.

Asiatic Boy got his year's mixed up but he will appear as Festin from the '91 JCGC.

[Indian Charlie]

I've always suspected NTamm of illiteracy, especially after his BC Turf opinions!

Or was that Spencer? Maybe they are both illiterate?

Anyways Ann, that was a pretty funny post! Keep it up.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Great-aunt English teacher taking control again. Between Summer Bird and HIM. Which do you say - between we? or between us? That gives you the clue. It's not that hard to speak (or type) literate English. The Sarge and his "for he and I" makes me want to climb the walls.

Considering your other posts today pertained to hi-jacking the threads about the Mr. Right and the Morvich with useless vignettes about their respective racing careers, your post to insult me is a gigantic improvement.

I hadn't been called illiterate in a while but everyone needs to be knocked down a peg. Especially from self-righteous know it alls with keyboards.

NT

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by CSC

I don't want to get ahead of myself, but if he wins convincingly Sat, does he still have an outside shot of HOY?

I believe he would be the first horse to win The N.Y Triple of The Belmont-Travers-JCGC and to cap it off in the classic and I know you don't like him on poly but if he can do it, isn't that a worthy resume for any horse for HOY and especially a 3 yr old to boot?

It's a big IF however....

I think you have a legitimate point here. Sorry to get off subject.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Gander

I dont think Zenyatta should be the gold standard to be judging HOY. Shes done nothing besides beating the same field over and over again at the same California tracks/surface. I dont think Summer Bird beating Zenyatta would be enough to get him HOY. He would have to either avenge his big loss to Rachel and thats not going to happen, or win the Jockey Club as the field is now and then win the BC Classic (only if it has Sea the Stars and a few others like Gio Ponti and Einstein).

You bring up an interesting point, it is really hard to say who is the horse to beat in the BC Classic? Richard's Kid, Rail Trip, Einstein...You have to say beating Zenyatta sounds better than beating those 3.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I think you have a legitimate point here. Sorry to get off subject.

Well that was unexpected, gee thanks...but let's really think about this, he would be in very select company with the likes of Easy Goer and Damascus if he wins on Saturday. Not a bad club to be in huh?

[RockHardTen1985]

I will be taking Quality Road, one more shot here. He should get a more fairly run race in this spot. I still beleive he is the best 3 year old male of this class.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Considering your other posts today pertained to hi-jacking the threads about the Mr. Right and the Morvich with useless vignettes about their respective racing careers, your post to insult me is a gigantic improvement.

I hadn't been called illiterate in a while but everyone needs to be knocked down a peg. Especially from self-righteous know it alls with keyboards.

NT

But you called a good race- I guess you're not colorblind, too!

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by CSC

Well that was unexpected, gee thanks...but let's really think about this, he would be in very select company with the likes of Easy Goer and Damascus if he wins on Saturday. Not a bad club to be in huh?

I'm going to be ill and hoping QR (or anyone else) dusts him.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

I'm going to be ill and hoping QR (or anyone else) dusts him.

I'm more worried of Macho Again frankly, I think Summer Bird will have no trouble with Quality Road.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

I'm more worried of Macho Again frankly, I think Summer Bird will have no trouble with Quality Road.

agreed. Summer Bird may have trouble with Quality Road at 9 furlongs, but at 10 I wouldnt think as much.

Think its a 2 horse race between Summer Bird and Macho Again.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

agreed. Summer Bird may have trouble with Quality Road at 9 furlongs, but at 10 I wouldnt think as much.

Think its a 2 horse race between Summer Bird and Macho Again.

I think Summer Bird is a much better horse now than he was in the Derby and Belmont, he's never going to be a wire to wire speed horse, but he's taken a big jump from being a stone dead closer to a horse that can lay closer to the pace and just gallop his competition into the ground, even if Quality Road has the lead, Summer Bird can just lay off of him causing him to run faster than he wants to and basically go by when he wants to, this is where the danger of Macho Again comes in, if Kent D pushes too early it may set it up for a late closer who is being reserved to make one late run.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Great-aunt English teacher taking control again. Between Summer Bird and HIM. Which do you say - between we? or between us? That gives you the clue. It's not that hard to speak (or type) literate English. The Sarge and his "for he and I" makes me want to climb the walls.

Let's face it, English is a stupid language:

There is no egg in the eggplant,
No ham in the hamburger
And neither pine nor apple in the pineapple.
English muffins were not invented in England,
French fries were not invented in France.

We sometimes take English for granted, but if we examine its paradoxes we find that:
Quicksand takes you down slowly,
Boxing rings are square,
And a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

If writers write, how come fingers don't fing?
If the plural of tooth is teeth,
Shouldn't the plural of phone booth be phone beeth?
If the teacher taught,
Why hasn't the preacher praught?

If a vegetarian eats vegetables,
What the heck does a humanitarian eat?
Why do people recite at a play,
Yet play at a recital?
Park on driveways and
Drive on parkways?
How can the weather be as hot as hell on one day
And as cold as hell on another?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language where a house can burn up as it burns down,
And in which you fill in a form
By filling it out
And a bell is only heard once it goes!

English was invented by people, not computers,
And it reflects the creativity of the human race
(Which of course isn't a race at all.)

That is why:
When the stars are out they are visible,
But when the lights are out they are invisible.
And why it is that when I wind up my watch
It starts,
But when I wind up this poem
It ends.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I will be taking Quality Road, one more shot here. He should get a more fairly run race in this spot. I still beleive he is the best 3 year old male of this class.

How exactly was he the victim of an 'unfairly' run race last out?

[CSC]

This is the day to bet him, if one believes QR is still one of the best 3 yr olds of 09, I would be surprised if he is the favorite today but I still can't help bugt think he will be underlaid in value.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by CSC

This is the day to bet him, if one believes QR is still one of the best 3 yr olds of 09, I would be surprised if he is the favorite today but I still can't help bugt think he will be underlaid in value.

I think Quality Road gets bet quite a bit, more so than we all might imagine.