U.S Intelligence a real oxymorn w/ this Nigerian

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I posted seven important AQ people and domestic terrorists killed or arrested during Obama's first year. The AQ kills were very notable in my book. Especially getting "the most feared AQ terrorist in Somalia" guy.

You dismiss these accomplishments - well, that's your opinion. Not mine.



I think so far, Obama's "big picture" against AQ terrorism is just fine

So now your opinion constitutes proof? What expertise do you have in this area where your opinion trumps everyone elses? I don't have much of an opinion because i simply dont know what is really going on nor do I know if 7 terrorists captured is a handful or a lot but it seems that your opinion isnt backed by anyone else who may be an expert or at least have strong convictions in the area.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

fyi the kid thats going i know just got out of basic..not exactly crack troops

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

when reading the thread above, it jarred my memory on the obama campaign getting angry with the clintons and it turning into a racial thing. now, i haven't done a lot of searching, but if i remember it being mentioned, it had to have gone public somewhere-right? that's why i started a search with the huffington blog being the first thing that came up.

The Clintons pursued everything they could as far as they could, including the first to release the Rev. Wright stuff (I thought if I'm remembering right), Ayers, and birth certificate nonsense.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So now your opinion constitutes proof? What expertise do you have in this area where your opinion trumps everyone elses? I don't have much of an opinion because i simply dont know what is really going on nor do I know if 7 terrorists captured is a handful or a lot but it seems that your opinion isnt backed by anyone else who may be an expert or at least have strong convictions in the area.

No, my opinion doesn't constitute "proof", it constitutes my opinion, and seven dead or arrested terrorists, including two important AQ internationals, stands directly and obviously in contrast to the "he doesn't act on terrorism, he's a *****" type of thought.

How many terrorists dead would prove to you that Obama is seriously and aggressively pursing terrorism across the globe?

(you took your white flag back, I see

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Clintons pursued everything they could as far as they could, including the first to release the Rev. Wright stuff (I thought if I'm remembering right), Ayers, and birth certificate nonsense.

sure they did. why wouldn't they? i always find the primary season to be hilarious-with each candidate thumping the other-and then they all make nice when one gets the nomination. hilarious.

[Riot]

My absolutely favorite commentary on the Presidential primary and the candidates by JibJab:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adc3MSS5Ydc

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

so your talking out your azz.....No, my opinion doesn't constitute "proof", it constitutes my opinion

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, my opinion doesn't constitute "proof", it constitutes my opinion, and seven dead or arrested terrorists, including two important AQ internationals, stands directly and obviously in contrast to the "he doesn't act on terrorism, he's a *****" type of thought.

How many terrorists dead would prove to you that Obama is seriously and aggressively pursing terrorism across the globe?

(you took your white flag back, I see

So now you are telling us what we think? Show me where i criticized Obama on Terror in this thread? You still havent provided any real backing for your statement.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

and you would know intelligent how?..keep thinking that obama is more than a slick talking black lawyer from chicago. hes not... he does not have the brains too even run a mcdonalds let alone a country..tards like you elected
him.. now we all will have to suffer..but in 3 years hes gone..till then
keep swinging on his nutz..

Four more years!!

[Riot]

I said Obama has gotten more AQ terrorists in the past year than Bush did his last five. And I listed them.

You guys got anything specific about what Bush's AQ terrorist kill-arrest count in Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. for his past five years in office are, bring it out.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Four more years!!

In a landslide

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I said Obama has gotten more AQ terrorists in the past year than Bush did his last five. And I listed them.

You guys got anything specific about what Bush's AQ terrorist kill-arrest count in Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. for his past five years in office are, bring it out.

You make the statement that "Obama got more terrorists in the last year than Bush got in the last 5" yet dont have the number for Bush's years?



You seriously think over the last 5 years there werent more than 7 Al Queda terrorists captured or killed? I mean really?

[Cannon Shell]

Nevertheless, since our last summary, there are 53 leaders in the al-Qaeda Iraq terrorist network that have been captured or killed.

That was a one month period in March-April last year

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?op...510&Itemid=128

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You make the statement that "Obama got more terrorists in the last year than Bush got in the last 5" yet dont have the number for Bush's years?



You seriously think over the last 5 years there werent more than 7 Al Queda terrorists captured or killed? I mean really?

Can't find evidence of many. You were the one that said it was beyond obvious. So ... ?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Can't find evidence of many. You were the one that said it was beyond obvious. So ... ?

Where are you looking? it took all of 2 minutes to find 53 captured/killed in one month last year. Here is another top guy caught in Afganistan

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/..._qaeda_le.html

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archiv...al_masri_a.php

Another top guy in 07

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...al-qaeda_N.htm
Another top guy in 07

http://www.examiner.com/a-698843~Cap..._to_Gitmo.html

Here is his predecessor, caught in 06

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Nevertheless, since our last summary, there are 53 leaders in the al-Qaeda Iraq terrorist network that have been captured or killed.

That was a one month period in March-April last year

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?op...510&Itemid=128

Thank you! Now, that wasn't hard, was it? Yes, I bow to those numbers.

It is for Iraq, however. Can you find anything regarding Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, etc - where most of AQ defected to? (Edit, saw your other posts).

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Where are you looking? it took all of 2 minutes to find 53 captured/killed in one month last year. Here is another top guy caught in Afganistan

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/..._qaeda_le.html

I searched on AQ capture killed US and the years!

[Cannon Shell]

From a May 08 story. Refutes what you were saying about Bush not pursuing in other countries.


May 1 (Reuters) - U.S. war planes killed Aden Hashi Ayro, an Islamist commander thought to be al Qaeda's top man in Somalia, on Thursday. Below is a list of major al Qaeda figures killed or captured since 2001:

AFGHANISTAN:

* Mohammed Atef, one of the top leaders of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, was killed in a U.S. air strike in Afghanistan in November 2001.

* Abu Laith al-Libi, one of Osama bin Laden's top lieutenants who commanded militant forces in Afghanistan, was killed in February 2008 in a suspected U.S. missile strike that also killed up to 13 foreign militants.

ALGERIA:

* Hareg Zoheir, the deputy chief of al Qaeda's North Africa wing, was killed along with two other rebels in a gun battle with Algerian troops in October 2007.

IRAQ:

* Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda's leader in Iraq, was killed in a U.S. air raid in June 2006.

* U.S. forces killed Muhammed Abdullah Abbas al-Issawi, described as a security emir for al Qaeda in Iraq, in April 2007.

* The U.S. military killed Muharib Abdul Latif al-Jubouri, an al-Qaeda figure accused of involvement in the kidnapping of American journalist Jill Carroll, in May 2007.

* Police killed Mohammed Yahya al-Rahmani, known as Abu Mussab, and three foreign militants near Samarra in Feb 2008.

* In April 2008 Iraqi authorities captured Nazal Sabar al-Jughaify, also known as Abu al-Jarrah, a senior lieutenant to al Qaeda's leader in Iraq, Abu Ayyub al-Masri.

PAKISTAN:

* Saudi-born Palestinian Abu Zubaydah was arrested after a shootout in the central Pakistani city of Faisalabad in March 2002. Zubaydah was operations director for al Qaeda and the first high-ranking member to be arrested.

* Ramzi Binalshibh, a Yemeni national and one-time roommate of Mohamed Atta, suspected ringleader of the Sept. 11 hijackers, was captured in Karachi in September 2002.

* Security forces arrested Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, al Qaeda's number three and alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, in a raid in Rawalpindi, near Islamabad, in March 2003.

* Musaad Aruchi, a nephew of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed with a $1 million bounty on his head, was arrested in Karachi in June 2004.

* Tanzanian Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani was arrested in the city of Gujrat in July 2004.
* Pakistani intelligence agencies and security forces arrested Abu Faraj Farj al-Liby, mastermind of two failed attempts on President Pervez Musharraf's life, in May 2005.

* Abu Hamza Rabia, an al Qaeda commander ranked the third most senior leader in the network, was killed in a tribal region of Pakistan bordering Afghanistan in December 2005.

* Muhsin Musa Matwalli Atwah (also known as Abdul Rehman), an Egyptian al Qaeda member wanted for involvement in the 1998 bombing of the U.S. embassy in Kenya, was killed by Pakistani forces close to the Afghan border in April 2006.

SAUDI ARABIA:

* Youssef al-Eiery, the leading al Qaeda militant in Saudi Arabia who was believed to be behind the May 2003 suicide bombings in Riyadh which killed at least 35 people, was shot dead by Saudi police shortly after the attacks.

Several of Eiery's successors, including Khaled Ali Haj, Abdulaziz al-Muqrin and Saleh al-Awfi, were killed by Saudi security forces over the next two years.

SOMALIA:

* A U.S. air strike on Thursday killed Aden Hashi Ayro, who led al Shabaab militants blamed for attacks on government troops and their Ethiopian allies.

YEMEN:

* Yemeni security forces shot dead Yasser al-Homeiqani, an al Qaeda fugitive, in southern Yemen in January 2007