Track Net/Mid-Atlantic GAIN AGREEMENT..

[Gander]

Not being able to bet horses is better than any 401K type savings plan. You'll be rich by year's end.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Gander

Not being able to bet horses is better than any 401K type savings plan. You'll be rich by year's end.

Disagree. You need to pick your spots. Stick to meets. Big days only. It can be done.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by sammy

its time for the government to step in and take over.

LOL, b/c they are doing such a good job with everything else. Let's get Barney Frank to talk during the post parade.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by sammy

its time for the government to step in and take over.

Take over what?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by sammy

when you look at the obama "to do" list, this topic may be be the easiest to fix.


1 finish war in iraq
2 finish war in afghanistan
3 fix healthcare
4 create jobs
5 fix horse racing.

Fixing horse racing and simulcasting are two very different things.

[exactamac]

still no news on any movement in the dispute? im getting nervous that we will get shut out of oaklawn as well

[joeydb]

Any new news? I'm saving all kinds of money but I hope this gets resolved before the real Derby preps start.

Taking the time to polish up my software while this is going on, but itching to play.

Joe

[Patrick333]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Any new news? I'm saving all kinds of money but I hope this gets resolved before the real Derby preps start.

Taking the time to polish up my software while this is going on, but itching to play.

Joe

Apparently losing money doesn't bother these people.

[exactamac]

at least at the turf club in philly i was able to bet Camarero Race Track, lol what a joke , left there at 5 o'clock after Aqu and Philly finished, the wife thought i was sick i dont usually get home that early

[joeydb]

Ditto. My wife has had similar concern for my health recently as my wagering levels have diminished...

[spendabuck]

OK -- so far Philly Park Phonebet bettors weren't able to bet the Churchill fall meeting, Fairgrounds, Santa Anita and now Gulfstream. By law, we can't legally open a different wagering account if we live near Pha Park. Pha Park's dumped their on-air commentators. They obviously don't care about their Phone Bet patrons now that they have the lucrative slots parlor. No one responds to letters of complaint.

This situation sucks. In the not too distant past, Pha Park had the premier phone bet account - great on-air personalites and efficient operators to take bets. They made a fortune from this system. Now their patrons can't wager on the nation's best cards. We can't bet/follow the triple crown trail.

Will this ever be rectified?

[Duvalier]

Really good conversation on At The Races today about this topic with a caller from New Jersey. You can probably hear it by pulling up the archives...it was in the 3rd hour.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by spendabuck

OK -- so far Philly Park Phonebet bettors weren't able to bet the Churchill fall meeting, Fairgrounds, Santa Anita and now Gulfstream. By law, we can't legally open a different wagering account if we live near Pha Park. Pha Park's dumped their on-air commentators. They obviously don't care about their Phone Bet patrons now that they have the lucrative slots parlor. No one responds to letters of complaint.

This situation sucks. In the not too distant past, Pha Park had the premier phone bet account - great on-air personalites and efficient operators to take bets. They made a fortune from this system. Now their patrons can't wager on the nation's best cards. We can't bet/follow the triple crown trail.

Will this ever be rectified?

If you think this is just a Philly Park problem, you are mistaken. And there is nothing to say you can't open a different wagering account if you live near Philly Park. I am a very happy TwinSpires account holder and opened the account when I used to live ten minutes from Philly Park.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by spendabuck

OK -- so far Philly Park Phonebet bettors weren't able to bet the Churchill fall meeting, Fairgrounds, Santa Anita and now Gulfstream. By law, we can't legally open a different wagering account if we live near Pha Park. Pha Park's dumped their on-air commentators. They obviously don't care about their Phone Bet patrons now that they have the lucrative slots parlor. No one responds to letters of complaint.

This situation sucks. In the not too distant past, Pha Park had the premier phone bet account - great on-air personalites and efficient operators to take bets. They made a fortune from this system. Now their patrons can't wager on the nation's best cards. We can't bet/follow the triple crown trail.

Will this ever be rectified?

Absolutely true. Philly Park is now "Philadelphia Park Casino and Racetrack". The word racetrack doesn't even come first anymore! That was also too long I guess as now I just see "PARX" billboards sitting out there. They can absolutely not care less about us, the horseplayer. I try to go to Delaware Park more often since I am closer to there anyway, but unfortunately they are still affected by the MidAtlantic/TrackNet dispute.

My frustration is boiling over. I'm going to burst a blood vessel.

[joeydb]

OK, I know we've been talking about this MidAtlantic/TrackNet dispute forever, unfortunately, but being in the Mid-Atlantic region there's not much else for me to focus on.

I was trying to determine exactly when the dispute started, and saw that the agreement that secured the Fairgrounds signal expired on 10/31/2009. So am I right that this dispute has been continuing for 83 days?

Eighty three days of getting reduced handle...what amazing business acumen our guys at MidAtlantic have! They should go work for AIG.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

OK, I know we've been talking about this MidAtlantic/TrackNet dispute forever, unfortunately, but being in the Mid-Atlantic region there's not much else for me to focus on.

I was trying to determine exactly when the dispute started, and saw that the agreement that secured the Fairgrounds signal expired on 10/31/2009. So am I right that this dispute has been continuing for 83 days?

Eighty three days of getting reduced handle...what amazing business acumen our guys at MidAtlantic have! They should go work for AIG.

Wait until we can't bet the derby.. Amazing that players from New Jersey do not even have an option to open a twinspires, express bet, tvg account. NJ Bets has an absolute monopoly. I wonder how many lawmakers are getting a piece of the NJ Bets action. Obviously the FTC couldn't give a **** about horse players as they let this monopoly exist.

[joeydb]

A rough counting with a calendar shows we are now 98 days from the Derby. So we expect the hard-headed attitude to evaporate in another 90 or so days when they've been entrenched for the first 83?

Then the figures will come out on handle and expenses and, surprise surprise, they will have a huge loss for the year. They will blame the unpopularity of racing and whatever deal they ultimately do make with TrackNet.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

A rough counting with a calendar shows we are now 98 days from the Derby. So we expect the hard-headed attitude to evaporate in another 90 or so days when they've been entrenched for the first 83?

Then the figures will come out on handle and expenses and, surprise surprise, they will have a huge loss for the year. They will blame the unpopularity of racing and whatever deal they ultimately do make with TrackNet.

The economy will be the villian.

[joeydb]

Good point, and of course that did have a legitimate effect, on everything. But wow, did they add to our woes with this impasse.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Good point, and of course that did have a legitimate effect, on everything. But wow, did they add to our woes with this impasse.

The Economy takes away the accountability of the negotiators not getting the job done.