ramon dominguez love in florida

[Patrick333]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

its the same old song because people bitch when they lose, that simple. the guy won at least 10 races in 3 days but thats not good enough. i have to laugh, when someone comes even close at aqueduct, i'll listen. its horse racing, like i've said a million times, they don't have engines with gas pedals. the horse will do whatever it wants at times. to say a guy "didn't try" when he's winninmg races off the charts is a joke. are you people trying to tell me , he only tries when he wants? say that to his face...this is a joke.

Couldn't agree with you more.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

what was great , was he burned me , i loved executive search (A Serpa), who was stuck on the rail and got second.....put it this way, if ramon was on MY horse it would of been a closer race! he gets the best mounts because he rides the most consistantly...that simple. people say this about every great rider...what do you think, the owners and trainers are idiots? of course they are going to give their best contenders to the best jock. this logic is a lack there of. HE GETS THE BEST HORSES BECAUSE HE RIDES THE BEST RACE AT AQUEDUCT. again, if you think hes not trying..i think you are crazy. i wish 90 % of these guys tried like ramon......... you are right ..hes a great rider. i don't know what others are thinking.

Its kind of ironic because I think hes easily in the the top 1-2 jockeys in the country and I hardly ever play horses he rides because he almost always rides horses whose odds are below my mendoza line for betting. I still like to watch him work his craft because imo nobody is better.

[GBBob]

TFM and BTW in the same thread? That's threadworthy in itself.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Gander

Its kind of ironic because I think hes easily in the the top 1-2 jockeys in the country and I hardly ever play horses he rides because he almost always rides horses whose odds are below my mendoza line for betting. I still like to watch him work his craft because imo nobody is better.

he is, definetly in the top three or four. you are right about him being overbet, so i use his horses in exactas alot. (i don't bet triples or supers) some of these horses make good keys in the pic's too. the thing is i don't bitch about a guy thats constantly winning. i actually get steamed at alot of the "blame the jockey talk". these guys are riding for their "bills", with the chance they might get maimed or worse. i think they are trying more than any of us knows. ask the two guys that got in a fist fight during the race last week. you don't come in the top four , you don't eat. yeah, they are not trying. they should take a parlor full of OTB monday morning quarterbacks with their losing tickets and throw them on a horse. most would crap their pants in the starting gate......lol

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by gales0678

Now today at the PBKC i got to see some other poeple complain about Ramon D outside of the ny city otb's

The ride on the #7 Wester Deed at the end was downright laughable

I didn't have him or the winner , but , if you bet on the 7 they should give you your $$$$ back

The winner the #2 was all out barley hanging on and Ramon quits riding before the finish just terrible

Did you watch the head-on? The winner drifted out that final 1/16th. Ramon was in a little tight. If he would have ridden harder, he would have run up on that other horse's heels. He wasn't going to win the race but that's not the main reason he quit riding. He quit riding because the winner was almost directly in front and he didn't want to clip heels.

Ramon did nothing wrong in that race. I thik he's the best rider on the East coast, not because he's the best rider physically but because he's the smartest rider by far.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Did you watch the head-on? The winner drifted out that final 1/16th. Ramon was in a little tight. If he would have ridden harder, he would have run up on that other horse's heels. He wasn't going to win the race but that's not the main reason he quit riding. He quit riding because the winner was almost directly in front and he didn't want to clip heels.

Ramon did nothing wrong in that race. I thik he's the best rider on the East coast, not because he's the best rider physically but because he's the smartest rider by far.

if he if he is the best rider on the east coast where is he on BC day ?

he 's 1/20 going into this year , i guess he's now about 1/25

and until he wins a triple crown race he simply is not the best

he maybe the best on the inner track when he is on the 2/5 favorite against a bunch of rats day after day on horses that scavs could ride

people on here want to bash pletcher all the time for his dreadful record in the classics and bc races and that's fine , well if he's allowed to be bashed ramon certainly is as well until he gets of the schnide in the TC or with multiple BC winners

again tell me where he has been on the 1st sat in may ? where has he been when md my md is playing? what is he in the classics , i know it's 0 for something......before you coronate him let's see him win the most important races multiple times

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by gales0678

if he if he is the best rider on the east coast where is he on BC day ?

he 's 1/20 going into this year , i guess he's now about 1/25

and until he wins a triple crown race he simply is not the best

he maybe the best on the inner track when he is on the 2/5 favorite against a bunch of rats day after day on horses that scavs could ride

people on here want to bash pletcher all the time for his dreadful record in the classics and bc races and that's fine , well if he's allowed to be bashed ramon certainly is as well until he gets of the schnide in the TC or with multiple BC winners

again tell me where he has been on the 1st sat in may ? where has he been when md my md is playing? what is he in the classics , i know it's 0 for something......before you coronate him let's see him win the most important races multiple times

funny, he only won three yesterday. what you are not happy unless he wins 4 or 5 a day....give me a break. he really only had one big horse last year(gio ponte) i guess a grade 1 win over ventura in cali was nothing....multiple grade 1 wins and a second to zenyatta. what are you going to say when he gets a couple big horses..which eventually he will. besides people like me make a bet more than on saturday and sunday...whose better than him on the daily grind....not many

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

funny, he only won three yesterday. what you are not happy unless he wins 4 or 5 a day....give me a break. he really only had one big horse last year(gio ponte) i guess a grade 1 win over ventura in cali was nothing....multiple grade 1 wins and a second to zenyatta. what are you going to say when he gets a couple big horses..which eventually he will. besides people like me make a bet more than on saturday and sunday...whose better than him on the daily grind....not many

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

funny, he only won three yesterday. what you are not happy unless he wins 4 or 5 a day....give me a break. he really only had one big horse last year(gio ponte) i guess a grade 1 win over ventura in cali was nothing....multiple grade 1 wins and a second to zenyatta. what are you going to say when he gets a couple big horses..which eventually he will. besides people like me make a bet more than on saturday and sunday...whose better than him on the daily grind....not many

johnny as people on here in the past say well where is todd in the big ones

i can say to you where is ramon in the big one's

everyone points to todd being 0 for 40 or whatever in the derby

well tell me what is ramon in the tc's races , what is he in the breeders cup

why can't he win those races when he is not on the best horses - all the great jocks won races when the whole world was watching on derby day , preakness day , belmont day and bc day and they won multiple times

no one besides the die hard racing fans here will remember what grade 1 he won in aug or mar or jan 20 yrs from now , nobody cares , the casual racing fan cares about what you do on the 4 big days a year and so far he is 1 for whatever

when the whole world is watching he has done nothing but lay egg after egg on derby day and bc day - maybe someday he will win those big races

if todd is going to get crucifed on here by people for his lack of resutls in the big spot on derby day and the other jewlels and the bc , ramon deserves as much until he starts winning the big races

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

johnny as people on here in the past say well where is todd in the big ones

i can say to you where is ramon in the big one's

everyone points to todd being 0 for 40 or whatever in the derby

well tell me what is ramon in the tc's races , what is he in the breeders cup

why can't he win those races when he is not on the best horses - all the great jocks won races when the whole world was watching on derby day , preakness day , belmont day and bc day and they won multiple times

no one besides the die hard racing fans here will remember what grade 1 he won in aug or mar or jan 20 yrs from now , nobody cares , the casual racing fan cares about what you do on the 4 big days a year and so far he is 1 for whatever

when the whole world is watching he has done nothing but lay egg after egg on derby day and bc day - maybe someday he will win those big races

if todd is going to get crucifed on here by people for his lack of resutls in the big spot on derby day and the other jewlels and the bc , ramon deserves as much until he starts winning the big races

So basically, you throw out the entire year of racing and deterime how good a jockey is based on how they do in about 17 races (The TC & the BC). The guy could win almost %25 of the time and be in the money over %55, but since he is 0-fer the TC/BC he is not an elite jock. This is really some vendetta you have against him, huh? Your logic/thinking on this on is mind boggling.

[the_fat_man]

This is very amusing.

I'd have thought that just about anyone who plays this game on a regular basis would realize that Dominguez is the best jockey in the country. And, it's really not even close.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

So basically, you throw out the entire year of racing and deterime how good a jockey is based on how they do in about 17 races (The TC & the BC). The guy could win almost %25 of the time and be in the money over %55, but since he is 0-fer the TC/BC he is not an elite jock. This is really some vendetta you have against him, huh? Your logic/thinking on this on is mind boggling.

Exactly. I really hope Winslow Homer ends up being a very nice horse with Dominguez on board.

Hell, I thought Ramon's rides on Better Talk Now and Friendly Island in the 2006 BC were great. How about his 2nd aboard Bluegrass Cat in the Derby?

I wish I could get someone on a mission to find a picture of Linda Rice and Ramon together, have them both autograph it and send it to Gales.

NT

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

So basically, you throw out the entire year of racing and deterime how good a jockey is based on how they do in about 17 races (The TC & the BC). The guy could win almost %25 of the time and be in the money over %55, but since he is 0-fer the TC/BC he is not an elite jock. This is really some vendetta you have against him, huh? Your logic/thinking on this on is mind boggling.

what about the people on here that bash Todd for being 0-40 in the derby - it's been done on here in the past , not recently but it has been done

1 - 75 in the tc races or whatever he is and 3 for whatever in the bc ?

it seems as though it's ok to bash todd and point out his lack of wins in the big spots on derby day , bc day etc etc ,and point out that he is overrated, but it's not ok to point out that ramon layed a lot of eggs on those days as well but is is still top jock

maybe i have a vendetta against ramon or maybe i'm just doing the same thing others on here do to todd - if i have a vendetta , then you can't tell me they don't either

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gales0678

what about the people on here that bash Todd for being 0-40 in the derby - it's been done on here in the past , not recently but it has been done

1 - 75 in the tc races or whatever he is and 3 for whatever in the bc ?

it seems as though it's ok to bash todd and point out his lack of wins in the big spots on derby day , bc day etc etc ,and point out that he is overrated, but it's not ok to point out that ramon layed a lot of eggs on those days as well but is is still top jock

maybe i have a vendetta against ramon or maybe i'm just doing the same thing others on here do to todd - if i have a vendetta , then you can't tell me they don't either

When Ramon starts getting on horses in the TC and BC races that are as good as the ones Pletcher fails with then we can compare the two. Until then, don't.

NT

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Exactly. I really hope Winslow Homer ends up being a very nice horse with Dominguez on board.

Hell, I thought Ramon's rides on Better Talk Now and Friendly Island in the 2006 BC were great. How about his 2nd aboard Bluegrass Cat in the Derby?

I wish I could get someone on a mission to find a picture of Linda Rice and Ramon together, have them both autograph it and send it to Gales.

NT

no one remembers who is 2nd

as for gio ponti this year don't you think the kid would now that the outside is the best place to be at SA?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gales0678

as for gio ponti this year don't you think the kid would now that the outside is the best place to be at SA?

STOP ALREADY

NT

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by gales0678

as for gio ponti this year don't you think the kid would now that the outside is the best place to be at SA?

This almost outdoes yesterday's post about a CLOSERS' BIAS at GG.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

This almost outdoes yesterday's post about a CLOSERS' BIAS at GG.

well if the rail / inside was good at SA why does mike smith come off the rail on the far turn , he has 1 horse in front of him it's not like he couldn't have gotten zenyatta through on the rail , there must be some reason why he went 7 wide that day ???????

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

When Ramon starts getting on horses in the TC and BC races that are as good as the ones Pletcher fails with then we can compare the two. Until then, don't.

NT

did chris antly win his derbies on the best 2 horses in the race , my god , charismatic was a claimer , strike the gold was the best horse in that field? , yup those 2 paid 5 and change to win they were the best


still waiting ramon still waiting

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

This is very amusing.

I'd have thought that just about anyone who plays this game on a regular basis would realize that Dominguez is the best jockey in the country. And, it's really not even close.

It IS pretty remarkable that people are willing to spend so much time arguing with someone who doesn't recognize how good Dominguez is.

--Dunbar

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

well if the rail / inside was good at SA why does mike smith come off the rail on the far turn , he has 1 horse in front of him it's not like he couldn't have gotten zenyatta through on the rail , there must be some reason why he went 7 wide that day ???????

He always goes 7 wide with her, because he's spotting the whole field about 20 lengths and ends up having to circle them.