Mig went down hard

[tector]

Obviously Mig is mensch--glad to hear it.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by Riot

I thought it was said the horse fractured both sesamoids.

Yes, that causes a horse at speed to have to go down. No stable leg to hold it up.

I'm not asking what was said. I have no doubt his legs were broken and I am dismayed that his neck wasn't and that he suffered before they decided to put him down. I want to know WHY. But I think Blackthroatedwind must know the answer or he would have replied by now to tell me I'm wrong again. And I never meant to cast any blame anyway. That is why they are called "accidents."

[Danzig]

are you saying you want to know why his leg broke? put your hands around your ankle, and then picture your ankles carrying half a ton of horse at 40 mph. you won't have to ask again why. all it takes sometimes is the slightest misstep....your post above suggested some mistakes on the jocks part that caused this-i'd imagine anyone who posted after that in response is taken aback that you think the jock may have caused the injury.

[chucklestheclown]

Why the heck are you talking down to me? I KNOW it was a misstep that caused the fall, Blackthroatedwind seems to have a problem with that.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

Why the heck are you talking down to me? I KNOW it was a misstep that caused the fall, Blackthroatedwind seems to have a problem with that.

You don't know any such thing for sure. There are several causes for fractured sesamoids. Many times sesamoids just fracture - pull, break apart - during the stress of racing. That's very common.

This is why at sales of young horses, we look closely at the sesamoid bones, because some things we see are associated with increased chance of future fracture.

His 'legs were not broken'. Two small bones (they are about 1-inch triangles) at the back of his right front ankle, embedded in tendons, not the big cannon leg bone, broke.

The horse was running. During running, one sesamoid fractured, then (probably fairly immediately) the other one (due to the instability caused by the first), then the horse went down virtually immediately as a result of the sesamoid fractures in one leg (two small sesamoid bones, in one right front ankle).

Sesamoids do not fracture as a result of falling (nearly always), the fractured sesamoids caused the fall because the suspensory tendons that the sesamoids are a part of, that helps holds up the leg is compromised and the horse can no longer bear weight on that leg (to say it simply). Part of the support mechanism has failed.

Yes, bones can just fracture spontaneously, or a bad step causes overextension, etc.

Sometimes early in the race, the rider can feel a bad step and get the horse pulled up. But horses are tired and heavy on their forehands in the end of races, the muscles are fatigued causing more tendon laxity, and there is a greater chance of disaster happening more severely, more quickly.

It does not appear the horse suffered very much (from the press), as the ambulance and vet got to him, gave him pain & tranq medication, put the leg in the appropriate immobilization splint (causes marked decrease in pain), and took him back to his stall where the appropriate and virtually only possible decision was made to euthanize him.

Here, go read this http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/hor...-disaster.aspx and look at the pictures here http://www.wiwfarm.com/sesamoid_injuries.htm

[chucklestheclown]

Thanks but I've been doing this since before yesterday and know what you are saying. But I take it from what you said about the "fall" itself you didn't see it. I watched this race and this spill enough times to know what happened to him. Maybe the next horse down I will look at and say "it just happened."

[MaTH716]

Chuckles, I think the problem is that no one knows what answer you are looking for. The horse broke his leg and the spill ensued. You did imply in the thread that you thought that Mig had something to do with it, which is ridiculous. But I'm just not sure what you are asking.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Chuckles, I think the problem is that no one what answer you are looking for. The horse broke his leg and the spill ensued. You did imply in the thread that you thought that Mig had something to do with it, with is ridiculous. But I'm just not sure what you are asking.

You are probably right that there is no one anwer so I will leave it there.

[my miss storm cat]

Migliore, who was released from North Shore University Hospital late Saturday afternoon, said he will visit a neurologist on Wednesday in hopes of getting clearance to ride by next weekend. - DRF 1/24

Has anyone seen an update?

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Migliore, who was released from North Shore University Hospital late Saturday afternoon, said he will visit a neurologist on Wednesday in hopes of getting clearance to ride by next weekend. - DRF 1/24

Has anyone seen an update?

Just spoke to a friend. He isn't sure but he thinks that Mig has been cleared to ride. I think with all this Gill stuff going on, he should be given some award or something. I mean he had a concussion and still dragged himself over to pet the horse and try to console him. That is the kind of personality on the track that should be celebrated. BLACKTHROAT, ya listening? Would be important for the sport to get that word out.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

Just spoke to a friend. He isn't sure but he thinks that Mig has been cleared to ride. I think with all this Gill stuff going on, he should be given some award or something. I mean he had a concussion and still dragged himself over to pet the horse and try to console him. That is the kind of personality on the track that should be celebrated. BLACKTHROAT, ya listening? Would be important for the sport to get that word out.

Anybody who knows ANYTHING about racing knows Mig is first class.. Nobody has to sing he song he has been doing it th eright way his entire career.. Mig RULES

[golfer]

He can update us himself if he chooses to, but here is the latest from DRF:

http://drf.com/news/article/110417.html

[my miss storm cat]

I love the last line. Damned right he does!

Agree with Freddy, by the way... he absolutely does rule.

[pointman]

Poor Mig gets dumped off National Pride out of the gate in the 3rd, hopefully he is ok, Johnny I said he got up and walked off.

[the_fat_man]

Might seriously be time for the Mig to hang it up. One can only tempt fate for so long.

[pointman]

Off his remaining mounts today, hopefully just precautionary.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by pointman

Off his remaining mounts today, hopefully just precautionary.

I hope so too and gotta say I disagree with TFM...